Charging electric cars

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Cojohnso1 said:

Because maybe there are bigger issues than my personal wants? But that's me. And you will not understand.

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Then please explain why you are on the B-Body site and not on some electric car site. In a few years our concerns with the present EV will have come to light. If you would just clean the **** from between your ears I think you would find most of us are not opposed to the future just the stepping stones. Todays EV will not be here tomorrow and it's negative environmental impact will be its down fall. Got to love those that can not see beyond their nose.

Excellent point, Sir.

"Hold my beer!! Watch me light that cows fart as she lets er rip"!!! DAMN!! THAT'S COOL!!! Dove battery well in a US Nuclear submarine, 2'x2'x6' tall, 126 of em: shocked acid burned just sweating in there; Only place for vapors is within the hull, all crew breathed it: Yes we are alive!! You want me to drive them there EVs?? SCREW THAT!! Power gen industry for 30+ years, temp vs CO2 chart, YOU ARE MISSING A WHOLE TON OF VARIABLES PAL!! TONS!!! Said my tid bit. Have a good NON-EV DAY!! Time to do some BURN-OUTS!!! Yes, with them oil based plastic rich high mpg tires with poor wet traction, saving rubber trees.

mopar 3 B said:

Then please explain why you are on the B-Body site and not on some electric car site. In a few years our concerns with the present EV will have come to light. If you would just clean the **** from between your ears I think you would find most of us are not opposed to the future just the stepping stones. Todays EV will not be here tomorrow and it's negative environmental impact will be its down fall. Got to love those that can not see beyond their nose.

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He's on this site because he owns Mopars and is into cars.
He is giving you his personal well written well thought out opinion
If you cant agree with him, than fine, do reply, but as usual all I can see is personal attacks as par for the course, business as usual on this forum,

Let's see if this approach works better? You can have an appreciation for the classic car markets as well as be excited for future? It's not one way or the other?

I believe if you truely believe that fossil fuels have no ecological negative impact on health or on our environment? Then you are a eyes wide shut kinda person. You only see what you want. You only stand for your own interests. Any science and facts that make you sad? Is fake. That is why the term "Karen" was adopted. Screaming of being a victim. When they (We) are actually the cause.

steve from staten island said:

He's on this site because he owns Mopars and is into cars.
He is giving you his personal well written well thought out opinion
If you cant agree with him, than fine, do reply, but as usual all I can see is personal attacks as par for the course, business as usual on this forum,

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No personal attack. Just wondering why someone so dead set against gas power was here pushing electric.

Cojohnso1 said:

That is why the term "Karen" was adopted. Screaming of being a victim.

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False.
The “Karen” name originated from the position of a middle aged , entitled white woman that felt as if she deserved better treatment than she was getting.
It has moved away from that a bit but that is the original form.

Also...
I am not against electric based on the mechanics of it. I am against the government mandating it along with the clueless fools that believe that somehow it is cleaner than what we have now. Electricity production is not cleaner than today’s gasoline cars. Power plants have to burn something to generate electricity. Your electric car needs to be recharged. The flawed thought that your car is overall more “clean” compares to thinking that buying meat from a supermarket is less harmful to animals than butchering it yourself. The animal is still dead, you just don’t see the blood at the supermarket.
This does not even take into account the mining for batteries or the disposal of spent ones.

mopar 3 B said:

No personal attack. Just wondering why someone so dead set against gas power was here pushing electric.

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What is wrong with you?
Were did this guy write he was so “dead set” against gasoline powered engines?
He is giving his opinion of what the future may hold, most likely after we’re all dead and buried
Than it’s the liberal crap written over and over, the usual bs posted when people can’t make a reasonable counter argument
I will mostly never own a electric car, I will stick with what has served me faithfully the last 50 plus years but that doesn’t mean I don’t want technology to come to a stop when it’s about alternate fuel sources

Kern Dog said:

Also...
I am not against electric based on the mechanics of it. I am against the government mandating it along with the clueless fools that believe that somehow it is cleaner than what we have now. Electricity production is not cleaner than today’s gasoline cars. Power plants have to burn something to generate electricity. Your electric car needs to be recharged. The flawed thought that your car is overall more “clean” compares to thinking that buying meat from a supermarket is less harmful to animals than butchering it yourself. The animal is still dead, you just don’t see the blood at the supermarket.
This does not even take into account the mining for batteries or the disposal of spent ones.

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Agreed, as well as the no tax money collected at the gas pump to help pay for our crumbling infrastructure. We have roads and bridges literally crumbling and the electric and hybrid cars are thumbing their noses at the gas pumps as they drive by. Road use tax paid at the pump is the most fair way to pay for repairs and construction. If you use the roads, you should have to pay. Not in my state yet.

Cojohnso1 said:

Let's see if this approach works better? You can have an appreciation for the classic car markets as well as be excited for future? It's not one way or
I believe if you truely believe that fossil fuels have no ecological negative impact on health or on our environment? Then you are a eyes wide shut kinda person. You only see what you want. You only stand for your own interests. Any science and facts that make you sad? Is fake. That is why the term "Karen" was adopted. Screaming of being a victim. When they (We) are actually the cause.

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It’s all part of a big lie
Repeat it over and over enough until it’s believable

Absolutely.
Lately I have been thinking about how few things with the government are as simple as they seem. Policies get implemented with ulterior motives associated with them although those motives may not be immediately evident.
Why mandate electric cars that pay no road use tax?
Maybe this leads to some type of GPS mileage counter to track your road use? You get a bill to pay for your use! Okay, fair enough but that means that some agency now has access to your whereabouts. It sounds innocuous but I feel uncomfortable knowing that yet another layer of government is going to get deeper into my life.

Kern Dog said:

False.
The “Karen” name originated from the position of a middle aged , entitled white woman that felt as if she deserved better treatment than she was getting.
It has moved away from that a bit but that is the original form.

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That's is origin. 2021 has been trying to find a male counter name. I like "Chad" But doesn't have the same impact?

Cojohnso1 said:

That's is origin. 2021 has been trying to find a male counter name. I like "Chad" But doesn't have the same impact?

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I had a younger brother with that name so of course, I dismiss the notion.

The internal combustion engine, fossil fuels burners
diesel, gasoline, flex fuels/E85-E15,
algaes, corn or other grain-based, renewable "farmed" fuels
or alcohol/methanol & ethanol etc.
the internal combustion engine
is nearing perfection,
why stop now ?
707-840hp out of 6.2-6.4ltrs, or 560hp out of 3.5 ltrs,
400+hp out of 2 ltrs fossil fuel burners, very fuel efficient now
or 1,000hp out of 7 ltrs (Hellaphant)
some get 20+ (to 30+) MPG as long as you don't
drive like an asshole
(is that better ?)
a small less than 2ltr IC engine
is now making as much or even more, as a huge V8 did, 20-35+ years ago
direct-injected, N/A or even boosted, many get 30+ MPG too
even the big hp v8's are getting great hp & great mileage
modern transmissions & gearing can accomplish far more still

why is there a ?,
totally/totalitarian & blindfolded/brainwashed mentality
form certain people or party
It's has to be my/our way or the highway approach ?
why can't we have all of the above aproach ?
you comply or else !!! a totalitarian approach
that tactic alone, makes people resist even more

A typical govt. mandated BS, nobody asked for or very few asked for
most the people/citizens/actual voters don't want it...
It's those 10-15% that want that approach...
WHY IS IT ? THE LOUDEST/MINORITY IN THE USA
have so damn much clout ?
(that's rhetorical)
1) they don't drive much or hate cars altogether,
maybe Bus people, talk about polluters
2) or live in highly populated inner-shitty's, where they only need
to go maybe 10-20 miles round trip
3) Many see no need for an IC engine,
when they can just plug 'into their house's electricity"
4) same are totally clueless where power comes from
or how it's been generated (by fossil fuels, gas or coal, rarely Nuke)
5) or if we have the infrastructure to feed 100 millions more cars
off the electrical grid, which we do not currently have,
especially in the densely populated regions
6) More so & especially in dead of winter when, power consumption
& heating costs are extremely high already
or because batteries charging rates are lower/slower & lose power quicker
7) or when summer comes around & everyone has A/C running
& overloads the grid already, brownout will be the new norm
8) or ever develop a feasible/sizeable battery/s
with a 750 mile range
9) Those that want it seemingly, that have mass transit everywhere,
& many they don't even like cars or even drive a car,
many they live in apt.'s don't even own property, let alone a car
10) the above they look at cars as throw away consumable products
use them up & dump in a landfill (Pollute, some really nasty ****)
or wrecking yard, maybe for future use (later is doubtful)
11) Maybe because the batteries will be too costly to repair/replace
$5k-$15k, even as high as to $25k with added labor,
there will be more scammers, praying on the uneducated/ill-informed too...

Let alone the process, all imports & where they get the raw materials
products to produce the batteries & to build the EV cars
mostly all comes from adversarial (enemies) communist countries
making our adversaries rich, to attack US even more
(very lil' of it come from the USA)

The tax on the electric cars will come for sure, in what format that remains to be seen, but probably at the charging station - if charging at home the meter will separate the electricity used for charging the car and you will get taxed up the ***. The no tax at the moment is just another push for people to change over to them.

As for the environment, as one reviewer of electric cars said "we can't consume our way out of climate change", however one would think it would be easier to control pollution at the source (the power station) than spread all around all the place (at the tailpipe). The mining / battery dumping is a huge issue though and not spoken about enough.

I know there will be benefits to electric cars around schools for instance, where the air quality is shocking because of all the lazy asses queuing up for half an hour with the engines idling to collect their kids. That's a whole different argument though, about why they aren't walking/riding to school anymore etc.

One thing not talked about much is the electromagnetic waves coming off these cars - the occupants will be sitting in one big ball of it and I wonder what that will do to them long term, especially kids?

Anyway, they are coming and we can't stop them. Drive your classic as much as you can now. I know I do.

I just watched a very good story of Iowa farmers that are hard-core conservative. But also like the green energy push. One of them have a side gig of electric scooters. His business has doubled just on the discussion of alternative transportation options. Another is allowing wind farm generation firms to tunnel underground power lines on his land along the side of rail lines that were ran thru his land decades ago. He is getting push back from other farmers on the sheer notion that this gives the otherside a win? Not anything on the logic.

To suggest electric is going to replace internal combustion tomorrow is silly. But to push back on the premise you don't like how they look or sound? Is even more silly.

This is the electric car charging station, and 100 yards away is the power plant that powers it,running on number 2 fuel oil! They probably drive home believing that they are zero emissions and are doing so much for the planet! Fools!

chargervert said:

This is the electric car charging station, and 100 yards away is the power plant that powers it,running on number 2 fuel oil! They probably drive home believing that they are zero emissions and are doing so much for the planet! Fools!View attachment 1122231View attachment 1122232

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Yes but it takes less fuel to charge per mile than used in internal combustion. It's still a win. Not the best optics I agree. It's about efficiency. I'm sorry. Even with the advancements with internal combustion. I'm not sure what you are fighting?