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Polish trick flow 240 ports?

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I finally received my TF240 heads after about 5 months of backlog. They are super nice and will be taking them to my machinest/engine builder to run the actual flow numbers and give them a once over. I noticed the ports have a texture to them (not polished smooth) from whatever method they use to make the heads. Should I be polishing inside these ports? I heard a little texture is good to prevent fuel puddling and keep the atomization? Thoughts engine gurus?

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I have TF 240s as well on my 440. The consensus seems to be there's no real advantage to cleaning them up that is worth your time + effort - they really are among the best heads you can buy for Mopar big blocks and they are made to bolt on and go.

I say run 'em as is! That's what I did at least
 
Rough textured ports make MORE power than polished! There are porters working hard at establishing the ideal roughness, and how to achieve it. No state of the art porters are polishing ports anymore.
 
Rough textured ports make MORE power than polished! There are porters working hard at establishing the ideal roughness, and how to achieve it. No state of the art porters are polishing ports anymore.
This is true. Starting in the 70s builders found that air and fuel mixture actually performed better with a little flow "Wiggle" if you would? This led to even lightly grooved cylinder walls? I'm not sure if that went anywhere? Since I haven't seen any design that stayed. But polishing all internal runners never returned.
 
On the intake ports, the "roughness" of the port surface creates a slight turbulence that helps keep the fuel mixture atomized.
 
Rough textured ports make MORE power than polished! There are porters working hard at establishing the ideal roughness, and how to achieve it. No state of the art porters are polishing ports anymore.

Yes this is what i have heard/read as well. Good to hear
 
On the intake ports, the "roughness" of the port surface creates a slight turbulence that helps keep the fuel mixture atomized.

Perfect, I was fairly certain I had read that before as well but I wanted to check with you all before I started assembly. Thanks
 
I agree with the above comments for the INTAKE ports - leave them as is so the roughness keeps the fuel atomized.

The exhaust is a different story. There is no fuel atomized in the exhaust, so let that flow as easily and smoothly as possible. Polishing them will help improve flow, although I can't say how much.

Nice heads!
 
I agree with the above comments for the INTAKE ports - leave them as is so the roughness keeps the fuel atomized.

The exhaust is a different story. There is no fuel atomized in the exhaust, so let that flow as easily and smoothly as possible. Polishing them will help improve flow, although I can't say how much.

Nice heads!

i agree with you. I would think polished exhaust ports would be beneficial.
 
So if we had not polished the ports in these '906' heads we would have made more than 748 HP?

Well that sucks. I guess we're not "state of the art". I'm so ashamed............

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Wondered if a combination would work. Inside curve rough and outside curve polished?
 
I agree with the above comments for the INTAKE ports - leave them as is so the roughness keeps the fuel atomized.

The exhaust is a different story. There is no fuel atomized in the exhaust, so let that flow as easily and smoothly as possible. Polishing them will help improve flow, although I can't say how much.

Nice heads!


Maybe not. There are some very smart guys with record setting equipment who are putting a burr on the exhaust ports and making more power.
 
So if we had not polished the ports in these '906' heads we would have made more than 748 HP?

Well that sucks. I guess we're not "state of the art". I'm so ashamed............

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Possibly, lol! But i remember you said that you did those heads more than a few years ago.
I sure dont see that quality or quantity of work on iron heads anymore.
 
So if we had not polished the ports in these '906' heads we would have made more than 748 HP?

Well that sucks. I guess we're not "state of the art". I'm so ashamed............

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I use the very coarse roll on the intakes after the carbide has done its job. The exhausts get the fine roll.
 
So if we had not polished the ports in these '906' heads we would have made more than 748 HP?

Well that sucks. I guess we're not "state of the art". I'm so ashamed............

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Maybe I'm missing something here.

First, no one has questioned your engine building capability. I have seen many of your engine builds and I am always impressed. I'm not sure how a polished or unpolished port would prove your engine combo would have made more or less power. Obviously it was a well performing engine.

The question and discussion was about the ideal finish on intake and exhaust ports. My understanding is rough on the intake and polished on the exhaust, and I explained why in my post. If the intakes are not rough, then some fuel might go through the engine as a droplet and not be burned cleanly. Quite frankly, I'm not sure that lowers horsepower or not, maybe it just wastes some fuel. I'm not claiming I know.

Perhaps you could enlighten us as with what to do and why rather than just (what I felt) bashing us. I'd love to learn...
 
Maybe I'm missing something here.

First, no one has questioned your engine building capability. I have seen many of your engine builds and I am always impressed. I'm not sure how a polished or unpolished port would prove your engine combo would have made more or less power. Obviously it was a well performing engine.

The question and discussion was about the ideal finish on intake and exhaust ports. My understanding is rough on the intake and polished on the exhaust, and I explained why in my post. If the intakes are not rough, then some fuel might go through the engine as a droplet and not be burned cleanly. Quite frankly, I'm not sure that lowers horsepower or not, maybe it just wastes some fuel. I'm not claiming I know.

Perhaps you could enlighten us as with what to do and why rather than just (what I felt) bashing us. I'd love to learn...
I took that "I'm ashamed " as sarcasm .
 
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