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WORLD RECORD - 1987 Buick GNX Sale - BARRETT-JACKSON LAS VEGAS

Crank up the boost, add an intercooler (if you didn't have a model that came with one)
and have at it with the little Dodges.
'Course, they found out in a hurry that their own fwd transmissions couldn't hack it
and went with the Getrag after a bit, too.
Mine threw the final drive right out of the case at 50k miles finally in '88 - but before
then, the 1000 pound weight difference meant you could dance with the Buicks once
you figured out some traction (which we did).

The 5.0's became "real" in '89 once Ford adopted MAF-based electronics and that whole
era of Fox-body madness ensued...
I bought a new '89 LX Sport (hated the GT "gingerbread" tacked on appearance crap) 5.0
which had all the GT stuff on it except for the hideous appearance stuff.
I test-drove both an IROC and a Formula Firebird (350, please) but they had terrible
quality control issues with both and I remember just how much they rattled and squeaked
brand new.
The Mustang was tight, no rattles - but finding a manual trans one was tough for a while.
The 89 5.0 mass air cars were the heat. Notchback LX 5sp was light and tight. No airbags yet. Could still get an a/c delete car. And they were cheap. Once the aftermarket heads came out, they got real fast.

Fun cars. Too bad nobody makes a stripped down, lightweight, v8 pony car anymore.
 
The eighties era of twisted, faded, cracked,
and broken, interior plastic parts. The '81
vette I had was the worst of any car or truck
I've ever owned. Luckily found a buyer for
the same I paid for it. Evidently he was
blinded by the brand. It was literally a rolling
pile of crap.
 
My dad bought me and 87 T-type with a blown engine, had 34k on it. I was 14 parents got divorced and the car disappeared, never got to work on it with my oldman. Still like those turbo Buick cars.
 
Back in the early 90’s, when the 5.0 mustangs and Buick turbo cars were going at it, it was fun to watch the Buick’s break down, one after the other.

the mustangs just kept on going, while the Buick crowd shared jack stands and tools. :thumbsup:

As has already been said, the 80’s stuff is hot right now. Nostalgia is a strong driver.
 
The 89 5.0 mass air cars were the heat. Notchback LX 5sp was light and tight. No airbags yet. Could still get an a/c delete car. And they were cheap. Once the aftermarket heads came out, they got real fast.

Fun cars. Too bad nobody makes a stripped down, lightweight, v8 pony car anymore.
Totally agree. Honestly, I'd never owned a Ford up until that point (and haven't since), but in those days
nobody was doing an affordable new hot rod like those so it reminded me of the original Road Runner
concept in some odd way.
I thought it was the car Ma should have been building in 1989, not those odd little FWD cars.
Turned out too that - and I hesitate to admit this - it was also the single best car I've ever owned in
my life.
By that I mean I beat hell out of it, drove the wheels off it, daily commuted to work in it - heck, raced it
in SSGT class in SCCA a couple years - and the car never laid down on me, not once.
I got many years and about 250,000 miles out of it and it still drove fine when I sold it to a joint in
Knoxville that specialized in them. They were amazed it still had the original T-5 and clutch in it!
The car was a ringer for sure...absolutely bulletproof.
Never jumped one curb or ran over pedestrians. :)
 
The Mustang 5.0 thing was huge around here in the late eighties. I remember trying to jockey in line at Atco as to not line up against a GN in my 86' 5.0. Truth is I got tied of losing to them. Even though the eighties cars where basically crap it was a fun era at the drags, the place was packed. Uncle Tony (from UTG on youtube) and some others would show the local 5.0 guys how to get them running. Seems like every week guys were trying new mods out to get the 5.0 to run better. Guys in the stands ( yes, there were actual people in the stands back then!) could identify with the cars they saw running out on the track. It was about as much fun as you could have running 13-14 e.t's.
 
One of the best, reliable cars I've ever owned, Daytona Shelby. I had 3 Daytonas back in the day. First 87 I added nitrous, the last 89 I modded with 18 lbs boost plus . And I'd run with any of the cars mentioned here.
 
They are nice machines. My son and I was looking at an '87. With new interior and upgrades. Wanted $35k for it. Considering I'm having troubles finding one simular to even compare? So that also says something.

The suspension had Buick race technology. Made Monte Carlo SS a joke.

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I'm an old G-Body guy and they were identical underneath, except the GN came with a 8 1/2 inch rear-end. Everything on all G-Bodies was totally interchangeable and for years I ran a GN 8 1/2 inch till I had to go 12 bolt. The TH-200-4R transmission manufactured for Buick Grand National, Olds 4-4-2 and Chevy Monte Carlo SS were the same, they had a different valve body than the 200's they ran in all other GM's that the 200 was used in. I used it to, till I had to go better.
 
I had the unique opportunity to see a whole yard full of GNX’s that were waiting to be distributed throughout the land, probably 60 or so. It was quite a site, and back then I really wanted one! Wish I would’ve bought one and just socked it away!
 
I was referring to my Trans Am GTA that I bought new in 89. My GN was a hard top.
That being said, I love my Mopars, but the late 80's GM's were fast for the time. I owned a 1989 Daytona Charger turbo and it was JUNK!! The 2.2 was over rated to say the least, so I bought the Trans Am.

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I have to confess, this was the era when I got out of Mopars as daily drivers. After 2 years in a Rabbit GTI with no air conditioning, I bought a loaded Bonneville SSE in 1989. Literally lived in that vehicle with a regional manager trucking job at the time, turned 150,000 miles in three years. The car had a sunroof that rattled from day one. Baby Blue occupied my single garage space. I still loved my Mopar, but not on hot days. The SSE drew positive attention from women in that era, especially my spouse, the GTX, not at all.
 
I agree - the 2.2/2.5 turbo motor was stout. Still have my first one:

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I've prepped, raced, modded, and sold many MANY more in my day. The 2.2/2.5 motor was forged internals from the factory, and the reason many of them died is, people didn't know how to behave with a turbo. Key is idle it down for at least 2 minutes after a hard run, to get fresh (cool) oil and coolant through the turbo center section and keep hot oil from 'coking' (turning to dry carbon - basically charcoal) the bearings.

My car above has been returned to stock because I don't race 'em anymore (and it's one of 26 built in this model and color combo), but back in the day I removed the small Mitsu turbocharger and replaced with a 60-trim Garrett; added an intercooler; added Mopar Performance +60 injectors and an adjustable fuel pressure regulator. It still has the manual boost controller and the boost and air/fuel gauges from back then. With stock injectors, I have enough fuel to safely run 18psi (back in its racing days, I was running 30+). The biggest thing was keeping the headgaskets in, and the way to do that was: get a good machinist to deck the head F-L-A-T, without upping compression too much. Get the Mopar Performance 006 (I think; it's been a while) or 007 headgasket - the difference being cross-drilled cooling passages or no - and put it together with 11mm ARP head studs. 30psi, all day long, never pop another gasket unless something else failed (like an injector). And my personal car still has the factory clutch in the A568 Getrag manual transmission.

My car is about the pinnacle of the 8V cars - big disc brakes all around; fat sway bars; performance valving in the shocks and struts; quick ratio steering rack. They handle amazingly well, and with the advent of the intermediate shaft driveline (three driveshafts - a center shaft going to the right halfshaft - instead of a short left shaft and a looong right shaft) went a long way to eliminating the torque steer, and factory my car was rated at 152hp and 210 lb-ft. Not bad for 7psi boost in a 2.5L four banger.

The true best were the 91/92 R/T cars - Spirit and Daytona - that had the 16v Lotus cylinder head. 225hp stock, paired with the same chassis refinements and transmission my car has. I've had a couple of those, but parts are getting really scarce for them now with virtually no aftermarket support...I have 8v heads stacked like firewood as spares, but only had one spare 16v head, so I sold my R/T a few years back to a buddy who had a stack of spares. Another one I sold recently (to help fund my Charger, actually - and to make a garage space for it!) was this one:

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My 1989 Shelby CSX-VNT, one of 15 built, 48k miles, and autographed by Carroll himself in 2001. Carroll Shelby loved these little turbocars and built them for Chrysler in 1986 (Shelby GLH-S, based on the Omni), 1987 (Shelby Charger GLHS, and Shelby CSX based on the Shadow), 1988 (Shelby CSX-T, a Shadow sold to Thrifty rent-a-car much like the old GT350H cars), and 1989 (the CSX-VNT, and the Dakota - he was the first to put a V8 in the Dakota body, before Chrysler had done it). All his cars were "numbered" - mine was #135 of 500 built, and 1 of 15 with both options (wide 225 series Gatorback tires, and Recaro racing seats). Industry firsts - Variable Nozzle Turbocharger, which is now pretty common mostly in diesels; and Fiberide plastic composite road wheels. Not aluminum wheels...plastic. This car handled like it was on rails. Further upgraded springs and struts, steering ratios, brakes and calipers, Shelby intercooled them all and upped the boost from Chrysler stock and the VNT boost hit RIGHT NOW when you put your foot in it! All were 5 speed manuals (getrag A555 units), and they are a HOOT to drive.

If you find one, grab it. They're a blast. Bulletproof it with head studs and a good gasket, and idle it down after a hard run....and you'll be good forever. Great fuel economy to boot (if you can keep out of the boost!).

The GN/GNX? Was pretty damn awesome back in the day, and I'm not surprised the money they're bringing now. I drove a GNX new and WOW - but I couldn't talk dad into it. He stuck with his Cutlasses.
 
I had the unique opportunity to see a whole yard full of GNX’s that were waiting to be distributed throughout the land, probably 60 or so. It was quite a site, and back then I really wanted one! Wish I would’ve bought one and just socked it away!
They were very nice cars and you're right, I wish I had one too.
 
The GN turbo cars were like rats at the drag strip. They were well represented. I started counting how many were in the staging lanes one night and well, why bother lol and it was like that week after week too! But seems like they disappeared just as fast as they appeared but it did take awhile for that to happen. I'm not a big fan of GM products. Seems like everyone was having quality control issues during those times but GM seemed to be the worse ones with it.

I remember fairly new cars with missing window cranks and door panels coming apart etc. Heck, even the mid to late 70's were sad for many.....and when a factory pickup truck is faster than a Corvette, you know things are sad! Yeah, it wasn't much faster but a Corvette should be MUCH faster than a small block pickup with a pair of exhaust stacks on it lol
 
The GN turbo cars were like rats at the drag strip. They were well represented. I started counting how many were in the staging lanes one night and well, why bother lol and it was like that week after week too! But seems like they disappeared just as fast as they appeared but it did take awhile for that to happen. I'm not a big fan of GM products. Seems like everyone was having quality control issues during those times but GM seemed to be the worse ones with it.

I remember fairly new cars with missing window cranks and door panels coming apart etc. Heck, even the mid to late 70's were sad for many.....and when a factory pickup truck is faster than a Corvette, you know things are sad! Yeah, it wasn't much faster but a Corvette should be MUCH faster than a small block pickup with a pair of exhaust stacks on it lol

Buzz, squeak and rattle machines, they were bad. I think the reason you quit seeing them is the same reason this thread was started.
 
I thought maybe the ZR1 Vette was faster..... Didn't they put that GNX motor in the 89 trans am. Thought they had a limited run of them??
They put the GNX motor in the 20th anniversary special addition. I believe that they were all white, but I could be wrong.

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The Mustang 5.0 thing was huge around here in the late eighties. I remember trying to jockey in line at Atco as to not line up against a GN in my 86' 5.0. Truth is I got tied of losing to them...

Yep, the turbo Buick’s were tough, but it was a lopsided fight to begin with. I don’t care what sanctioning body you’re talking about, but a power adder 231 cube car of similar weight size will nearly always beat a 302 NA car. I mean you’re spotting them a turbo for only 71 cubes.

But at the knarley edge, nitrous 302 vs turbo 231, it’s a great fight to watch. I had my 5.0 cars set up for SCCA, and there was no Buick that wanted any part of that turn left/right action ;)
 
Yep, the turbo Buick’s were tough, but it was a lopsided fight to begin with. I don’t care what sanctioning body you’re talking about, but a power adder 231 cube car of similar weight size will nearly always beat a 302 NA car. I mean you’re spotting them a turbo for only 71 cubes.

But at the knarley edge, nitrous 302 vs turbo 231, it’s a great fight to watch. I had my 5.0 cars set up for SCCA, and there was no Buick that wanted any part of that turn left/right action ;)
I have a been Mopar guy forever, and I can't remember a time when I didn't own at least one, but in the late 80's, early 90's, most of my daily drivers were GM. My Aunt/Godmother worked at colonial motors GMC/Pontiac and I was able to get the family member discount. I changed GM cars and Tahoes like my underwear. I had a few that I was able to sell for more than I paid after beating on them for a few months. My mother even had a 1988 Trans Am "mid-life crisis" car.
I bought a new Tahoe every 2 years from 1996 until 2010 when the body styles got too ugly IMO. It was hard to run a fitness company from a big block Mopar or a jacked up Power Wagon. I kept those for the weekend.
 
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