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Opinion on this GTX for sale

I've said in other threads that trying to price GTXs is tricky, because the pool of real buyers is relatively small compared to say, folks chasing second generation Chargers. In 45 years of owning them, I've found it's hard to find good ones without paying a stiff price, and hard to get a decent offer when selling a good one. I've paid the stiff prices, knowing it was cheaper than trying to upgrade a lesser car. I've sold them relatively cheap, not wanting to devote significant time to the marketing process, and weeding out the tire kickers and low ballers. I sold my '69 in 24 hours when I made up my mind to move it quickly. Knowing the background of your car, and the fact you were trying to replicate a needle in a haystack from your younger days, I think you and your seller were well matched, and the price was a good deal for both.

IMO the eBay car may have been a decent deal, assuming it was fully functional, no hidden rust or collision issues, and no plans on the part of the buyer to make it into a show winner. History doesn't seem to be a huge selling point with 440 cars. It is to me, but the folks who have bought my cars never seemed concerned with anything past fender tag or broadcast sheet (all my stuff has been numbers matching.)
 
Cojohnso1 said:
In an attempt to make a tough comparison? I bought my '69 GTX 3 years ago near the Canadian boarder for $21.5k. What is flatout more appealing than the Ebay '68?

'69 a little more favorable year.

Vehicle condition better. (I wouldn't grade it a full "2" as it is driver quality. 2.5?)

4-speed.

Dana rear vs 8 3/4.

What's not as favorable?

Non-numbers matching. In fact not even close. Wrong transmission, interior, engine. (Although all is period correct. '68 stamped 440. Trans looks also to be '68.)

History. I only know last 30 years. First 20? Unknown as that owner and original owner has passed. But from what I can gather? The car is from 2 '69 GTX with some Sport Satellite body parts. (Both fenders)

Because of the pros and cons? I would consider the value close if not a little better than the Ebay '68? (Primarily because of the year and transmission difference.)

Quick walk around vid of said car. All opinions welcome.

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I think your car represents the better value. Color combination, equipment, and condition. At the price you paid, who cares about the history.
 
Your 69, $5k-$10k more IMO. I prefer 69's although nothing wrong with a 68. I could care less about matching #'s though, just as long as it truly is a real GTX and it came with a 4 speed, some other people won't consider a non-matching car
 
Runcharger said:
Your 69, $5k-$10k more IMO. I prefer 69's although nothing wrong with a 68. I could care less about matching #'s though, just as long as it truly is a real GTX and it came with a 4 speed, some other people won't consider a non-matching car
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I agree. However other do care about the history. It does hold the car back. But in my world. It's a blessing too? If want to upgrade to lets say a Hemi? No big sin because it's not original. It's why I targeted. Others can pay and play with the all original stuff. For me. I prefer flexibility. But to each their own.
 
Runcharger said:
Your 69, $5k-$10k more IMO. I prefer 69's although nothing wrong with a 68. I could care less about matching #'s though, just as long as it truly is a real GTX and it came with a 4 speed, some other people won't consider a non-matching car
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It didn't come with 4-speed. Car's fender tag that does match title, dash VIN and radiator support says it's a RS23 (GTX) But D32 code. (automatic) But the 18- spline A833 transmission with a newer Centerforce 11" clutch works far too good to question any motive. Lol.
 
Very few X's or Chargers came OEM with 4 speed. To me, 4 speed cars are wore valuable whether oem or not.
I have owned many 68-70 B bodies over the last few decades and very very few with # matching drivetrains. When I did have one, no one cared. When I didn't they all wondered WHY it did not have the original engine! Go figure!
I would never pay more than parts car price for any car with pics or video. ( Unless it is from good friend.)Especially off Feebay. Hard enough to tell what you are buying prodding, poking and magnets right their in the buff.
 
Wait a minute - a burgundy '68 GTX?
Who the heck would want one of those??
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Oops.... :rolleyes::lol:
 
barbee6043 said:
Very few X's or Chargers came OEM with 4 speed. To me, 4 speed cars are wore valuable whether oem or not.
I have owned many 68-70 B bodies over the last few decades and very very few with # matching drivetrains. When I did have one, no one cared. When I didn't they all wondered WHY it did not have the original engine! Go figure!
I would never pay more than parts car price for any car with pics or video. ( Unless it is from good friend.)Especially off Feebay. Hard enough to tell what you are buying prodding, poking and magnets right their in the buff.
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It is true that all "Numbers matching" is far more important than it was back in the day.

I too believe that manuals have higher value. In fact, it was a must in my then 2 year search. For me. One misses some of the muscle car experience with an automatic. Especially Street. Higher end drag cars are a different story. All the big HP technology went to race automatics.

I have a crazy stupid Pro Street '70 Cuda project build. 1200+ HP on pump 91 gas from a 904 ci DOHC Schubeck marine engine. And one of the build's hurdles is transmission options. Currently there is no manual option. All the big trans companies understand that there is a gap in manual transmission strength for today's engine performance options? Liberty, G-Force, Tremec, Passon all acknowledge. Tremec seems to have the best chance. And there is always a Lenco option. But that really is an automatic.

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Did this eBay car sell or not hit reserve? Can’t tell from the closed auction.
 
69L48Z27 said:
Did this eBay car sell or not hit reserve? Can’t tell from the closed auction.
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Neither can I. But that price is what the market bared. And I believe was not out of line. If seller is having Charger R/T fantasies? That's sellers issue. Them Chargers are market hot! A simple '68 Charger SE with 383 column shift auto in that condition would go $10g higher in my opinion?
 
Cojohnso1 said:
Neither can I. But that price is what the market bared. And I believe was not out of line. If seller is having Charger R/T fantasies? That's sellers issue.
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I’m always curious if they actually sell vs no meet reserve. Either way $28k was all of it.
 
LowBikeMike said:
What do you think factory AC adds to the value? Or does it at all?
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I think a little bit. If nice and works well? I would think about 10%? Maybe more in the sunbelt. I live in Minnesota. None of my Muscle era performance cars had air. But if I lived in the plains of Texas? I may very well sing a different toon?
 
These sissies here want AC unless a drag racer kind of guy. Me, I want windows down and hearing the engine even if the fresh air is 110 and 150 humidity!
#s??? I say maybe 5 % of thee cars still have the original eng!!! especially in RR and Bees, yep 318 chargers many times have oem motors but who really cares? As in my slant cars are oem but who cares!? Anyone want a 62 Dart slant car!??
 
I don't like A/C in a musclecar, It's ugly under the hood, extra weight and it detracts from the muscle theme a bit I think. I also prefer a swapped in 4 speed over an original automatic as well. I realize the general buying public might not agree with me though.
 
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