• When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.

A727 rear clutch piston question

Shade Tree Mech

Active Member
Local time
12:36 PM
Joined
Jun 26, 2021
Messages
30
Reaction score
6
Location
Minnesota
I see a lot of issues relating to the rear clutch in the A727. I.E. catastrophic burn-up. While reassembling, I found a lot of slop (over .080) between the piston and the Bellevue spring. I ordered a slightly taller piston from a source recommended by responders in a previous post. Upon assembling, I found something that distresses me. The Bellevue spring fingers grip a lip on the new piston as shown in the attached photograph. This lip on the new piston is not present in the original piston. I examined the contact edges of the spring and found that it is stamped and tumbled. No further treatment of the edges is done. There are some sharp edges at the ends of those fingers. Given that there is no clearance between the fingers and the lip of the new piston and that the circle radius of the fingers will decrease slightly when the piston is activated, they will dig into the lip and generate the aluminum powder that accumulates at the bottom of the oil pan. I want to do something that will mitigate this condition before continuing. My choices are: put the piston into the lathe and trim off a few thousandths from the radius of the lip, or round over the edges of the fingers. I'm leaning toward the edges of the fingers. What say the experts and speculators? Also, Should there be some clearance between the bottom of the spring and the top of the piston? Like say, .003?
DSC04843.JPG
DSC04844.JPG
DSC04846.JPG
 
Last edited:
Don't think the location of the seal is an issue. My opinion, the quality of the seal is not nearly as good as years ago. I have direct experience with late model seals being much harder to properly install compared to older seals in my collection, which directly relates to failure rate.. The piston position and travel distance is determined by the band adjustment quality.
 
OK, I see my mistake. The piston is upside down. Man, I hope I get this thing back together right.
 
I wish I knew where to get the quality rebuild parts I did years ago. The new stuff is more difficult to deal with.
 
Usually that happens when you don't use the correct bellevue spring with the correct piston. There is an early style and late style (matched set)
 
The first time I did my 727 in '73 I stared at the Service Manual for days before I was confident of the orientation of all the parts. The built them for my drag cars and customers for 45 years. 727's are a fairly simple but there are a lot of internal parts to properly combine to match the combination of the car.
 
I just did a rebuild with parts from Cope, CRT. Good stuff IMO.

I have been getting my parts from Cope for a few years. Generally very happy them. The seals in his kits are not as good as my seals from years ago. Not a shot on Cope, just the state of many suppliers these days. John has been good about dealing with the only part issue I had with them. I will continue to get parts from him. Also very happy with the complete two 727's I have run from CRT.
 
Auto Transport Service
Back
Top