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dan juhasz

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I bought a 67 GTX last year, I noticed that it had an inexpensive carpet installed (glued) to the original carpet. So I had this hope of pulling out a build sheet. Went at it today, I actually did find the tattered remnants under the front passenger carpet. It was in poor condition and is essentially not legible at all. Can anything be done to try and enhance what is left to try and read the data.
Also I do have a small soft area in the driver side pan, are there any decent quality partial lh front pans that are manufactured?

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roadrunnerh said:
I'm impressed with your determination on the archeological dig and preservation! :thumbsup:
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I was kind of bummed out to find one but in such poor condition, if that was under the rear carpet it would have survived in great shape.
 
Sir, yes and yes….. save the bits. Iron oxide from rust can be lifted …..there’d are several YouTube vids on documents recovery
 
dan juhasz said:
I bought a 67 GTX last year, I noticed that it had an inexpensive carpet installed (glued) to the original carpet. So I had this hope of pulling out a build sheet. Went at it today, I actually did find the tattered remnants under the front passenger carpet. It was in poor condition and is essentially not legible at all. Can anything be done to try and enhance what is left to try and read the data.
Also I do have a small soft area in the driver side pan, are there any decent quality partial lh front pans that are manufactured?

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What a disappointment to finally find the sheet, only to see that it is ruined.

With little to lose, you might try to remove the rust from the paper. Try a single piece and see what happens - it may make some of the original printing more legible. On the other hand, it might dissolve what's left of the paper. Try scanning each piece of paper, you may be able to extract some hidden print with a photo program.

This is a link for an article on removing rust from paper. You'll have to download the PDF link. https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1757-899X/364/1/012081 Some of the test results were pretty encouraging, there are photos in the PDF. It took several hours for the process to work.
 
I’d just preserve it for now between two pieces of cardboard
 
Were it me...

Step one would be to verify it's actually the sheet from your car.

If it is, then I'd proceed.

...or you could have FCA/Stelantis send you a copy of the IBM punch card, from which a duplicate build sheet could be made.
 
Good find but bad shape. Know your not happy with the shape it is in. Maybe just put it together on a backing surface and keep it in a folder for reference.
 
YY1 said:
Were it me...

Step one would be to verify it's actually the sheet from your car.

If it is, then I'd proceed.

...or you could have FCA/Stelantis send you a copy of the IBM punch card, from which a duplicate build sheet could be made.
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I didn’t know a duplicate could be made. Who does that? I actually just mailed in my request to Fca for the punch card for 2 of my cars.
Dan
 
Dead sea scrolls were rough. It would cost a ton money and no guarantee .
 
You haven't said whether you have looked elsewhere for a build sheet. I tore my car down to a bare body shell for restoration. I have only ever found two build sheets. One was neatly folded, placed in a plastic sleeve and attached to the under side of the rear seat springs with a hog ring. It's still there. The other was taped to the outside back of the glove box. That's the one I pulled out of the car for documentation. It's in perfect condition. Whilst reassembling the car, I attached a photocopy to the outside back of the glove box. Why not? It was a cool thing to do. I found none under the carpet nor above the headliner. By the way, my floor pan was in perfect condition. Surprisingly, not rusted at all.
 
Fran Blacker said:
Dead sea scrolls were rough.
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So too was the Turin Shroud.....but unlike Dan's Build Sheet, the Shroud and the Dead Sea scrolls were found in dry desert conditions, and not under a floor mat in the footwell of a car that lived outside in the rain. :D
 
A lot of importance has been placed on the documentation of these cars since their value has increased.
Even people with 318 cars tout "Matching Numbers" at shows or in sales ads.
My own red '70 came with 2 build sheets with the paper work. Mine is a 318 car but I thought it was cool to have them. A couple of years ago I looked at them closer. It turns out they aren't for my car AND they are for 2 different cars.

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I was thinking of laminating the one out of Fred....it's just sitting in my desk drawer right now.
Typical condition, old and dry, mostly legible but tattered on edges and such.
 
Like posted above some of these cars give up more than one sheet.
Not always for the same car.
My brothers 440, 70 R/T had 2 one for his car and another for a 383 R/T but different color.
Keep digging, his odd one came from under the seat back on a front bucket. His correct one was on top of the glove box liner.
 
Sadly with the decent percentage of Build Sheets found in cars, a much higher importance on having them has been placed, where the BS's were never really intended to be left in the car to begin with (from what I have read over the years).

It has become expected as part of a cars' pedigree that a BS will accompany all the documentation to validate authenticity.

Finding them all depends upon the factory that built the car, the workforce in that factory, company policy at that factory, the mindset of factory workers, and sometimes...sheer luck. :)

My friend with the '70 Chrysler 300 Hurst has 5 x BS on his car. That is the highest number I have ever heard of.
 
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