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Stage 5 hemi conversion heads question

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Hello, looking at doing the stage 5 conversion where you put hemi heads on a 440 block. In the last 3 weeks I've sent two emails, and called and left a voicemail to stage 5 with no response.

Are they usually like that? Are they out of stock or something? Anybody had any dealings recently? Thank you
 
Times are different, their quality is impeccable! Also they make the best rockers in the business. Only question is how do they deal with the head bolts in hte valley like in the hemi blocks.
 
Moparnocar said:
Hello, looking at doing the stage 5 conversion where you put hemi heads on a 440 block. In the last 3 weeks I've sent two emails, and called and left a voicemail to stage 5 with no response.

Are they usually like that? Are they out of stock or something? Anybody had any dealings recently? Thank you
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They don’t make the wedge conversion heads and related parts any more.
 
Hemirunner said:
They don’t make the wedge conversion heads and related parts any more.
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Serious? I've read a couple posts where guys got them fairly recently and they still have them listed? When did that stop? Anybody else doing it?
 
Moparnocar said:
Serious? I've read a couple posts where guys got them fairly recently and they still have them listed? When did that stop? Anybody else doing it?
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It’s been years. They still have them listed? Where?
 
Moparnocar said:
This shows an aluminum hemi head. Is this a conversion head?
http://www.stagev.com/pages/426hemihead.html


They also list a 383 block manifold. Their site isn't the best
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That’s not a conversion head. I tried to buy them new a few years back and was told they don’t make them anymore. I’ve posted on this site looking for a set with no luck. Here’s a conversion head on a wedge block.
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Hemirunner said:
That’s not a conversion head. I tried to buy them new a few years back and was told they don’t make them anymore. I’ve posted on this site looking for a set with no luck. Here’s a conversion head on a wedge block. View attachment 1241418
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Damn, my customer is going to be severely disappointed. Is there any other companies that did this in the past? Otherwise, we're looking up dressing up a gen 3 hemi as a Gen 2 and putting that in there but I don't think he wants to do that
 
snakeoil24 said:
Times are different, their quality is impeccable! Also they make the best rockers in the business. Only question is how do they deal with the head bolts in hte valley like in the hemi blocks.
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snakeoil24 said:
Times are different, their quality is impeccable! Also they make the best rockers in the business. Only question is how do they deal with the head bolts in hte valley like in the hemi blocks.
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The upper head bolts are in the intake ports.
 
Moparnocar said:
Damn, my customer is going to be severely disappointed. Is there any other companies that did this in the past? Otherwise, we're looking up dressing up a gen 3 hemi as a Gen 2 and putting that in there but I don't think he wants to do that
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You can still get hemi blocks and standard heads although availability might be tough with all the supply chain issues going on today.
 
Hemirunner said:
You can still get hemi blocks and standard heads although availability might be tough with all the supply chain issues going on today.
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I know the crate hemi came out a few years ago, but I assume all of those are bought up right away
 
Moparnocar said:
I know the crate hemi came out a few years ago, but I assume all of those are bought up right away
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You’ll need to buy each piece and build it using aftermarket parts. Blocks are available from Indy Cylinder Heads, Keith Black, Bill Mitchell,etc. All the parts are available to build it, you just have to source and assemble.
 
Hemirunner said:
You’ll need to buy each piece and build it using aftermarket parts. Blocks are available from Indy Cylinder Heads, Keith Black, Bill Mitchell,etc. All the parts are available to build it, you just have to source and assemble.
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Yeah that's what I was thinking, but parts alone doing that probably is going to be 15 to 20 grand? I suspect?
 
Moparnocar said:
Yeah that's what I was thinking, but parts alone doing that probably is going to be 15 to 20 grand? I suspect?
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20 grand “might” cover parts. Then add labor and machining costs. Massive price increases the last two years.
 
Stage 5 Heads 3500.00
Block 4800.00
Rocker assembly
2900.00
Crank, Rods and pistons 3200.00 which is sonny bryant crank, Manley Rods and Diamond pistons 3200.00
Iskaderian Cam with bronze bushed roller rockers 1800.00
Manley valves 800.00
Cam bearings $200.00
Valve covers 300.00 for plain black
Intake 550.00
Holley 950 single 1200.00
Rings 200.00
Bearings 300.00
Push rods Smith brothers 200.00
Professional assembly 1200.00
Milodon Pan 300.00
Distributor MSD 450.00
Wires Moroso 8 mm Blue max 250.00
plugs Champion 60.00 2 sets 120.00
Springs duel 200.00
Retainers 175.00
water pump 200.00
fuel pump push rod 50.00 from crane cams
drive gear milodon 100.00
Head bolt kit ARP 150.00
Pan and Intake bolt kit 150.00
Updated rear main steal kit from mancini 65.00
Fly wheel auto B and M 75.00
Balancer 395.00
send out entire crank, rods, pistons, balancer and fly wheel for balancing 500.00 to manley or who ever
gasket kit 150.00
Cometic head gasket set 205.00
Milodon or Similar oil pump hi Volume 150.00
Spark Plug tubes 200.00 sonny bryant set
Pulley set Bouchillion Performance 150.00
alternator bracket 75.00
 
I tried to look them up long ago, and no mention then of those conversion kits.... you have to remember, they were only offered at a time when original Hemis were getting scarce and Mopar Perf wasn't offering the aftermarket blocks, etc yet.
Anyway, if you could do a conversion with those heads, you're gonna need a different crank, or you will have to balance your 440 crank with Mallory metal to use relatively heavy hemi pistons that will be needed.
 
snakeoil24 said:
Stage 5 Heads 3500.00
Block 4800.00
Rocker assembly
2900.00
Crank, Rods and pistons 3200.00 which is sonny bryant crank, Manley Rods and Diamond pistons 3200.00
Iskaderian Cam with bronze bushed roller rockers 1800.00
Manley valves 800.00
Cam bearings $200.00
Valve covers 300.00 for plain black
Intake 550.00
Holley 950 single 1200.00
Rings 200.00
Bearings 300.00
Push rods Smith brothers 200.00
Professional assembly 1200.00
Milodon Pan 300.00
Distributor MSD 450.00
Wires Moroso 8 mm Blue max 250.00
plugs Champion 60.00 2 sets 120.00
Springs duel 200.00
Retainers 175.00
water pump 200.00
fuel pump push rod 50.00 from crane cams
drive gear milodon 100.00
Head bolt kit ARP 150.00
Pan and Intake bolt kit 150.00
Updated rear main steal kit from mancini 65.00
Fly wheel auto B and M 75.00
Balancer 395.00
send out entire crank, rods, pistons, balancer and fly wheel for balancing 500.00 to manley or who ever
gasket kit 150.00
Cometic head gasket set 205.00
Milodon or Similar oil pump hi Volume 150.00
Spark Plug tubes 200.00 sonny bryant set
Pulley set Bouchillion Performance 150.00
alternator bracket 75.00
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Thank you for this list, but what block? Kieth black 426 is $7800
 
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