Need to replace my front tires. Considering Goodyear assurance fuel Max and Michelin pilot sport 3. Wondering how these stack up against Cooper's for handling and ride.
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Sure helps to know what they are going on. What the wheel sizes and tire sizes will be. How fast and what surface they will be driven on....
63 b body,225 60, daily driver
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Michelin are my personal favorite, but my 72 Charger rides on cooper cobra, Ive had radial t/a’s as well all good just depends on your application and budget. All are good but Michelin pilot sport are soft! IMO
Michelin pilots are soft means they give a good ride at the expense of handling?
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Soft as in they'll bite like crazy but wear faster. Much better tire than the other 2 IMO.
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I have no personal experience with the pilots, but by "soft" , I think he means the tread rubber is soft, meaning a good handling tire, with a shorter lifespan.
In auto cross, there are classes for race tires, and 200-up rated tires.
The higher the tread rating number, the longer tread life can be expected, and less handling or traction characteristics. The "traction" number refers to Wet traction, NOT dragstrip performance.
Edit: turns out I was wrong, I DO have Z speed rated Pilots on the back of my Z/28. Can't find the tread rating, it must be on the inside of the mounting, but judging by the looks of the tread, they're SOFT. Fronts on the same car are Falken, 600 rating, fronts on my 62 (regular street radials)Iare 420, the Dot legal drag radials on the back are 000. Cooper pickup tires are 460.
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Go with the Michelins and don’t look back. Modern compounds and tread patterns. Better grip , better ride , quieter and better mpg .
I run Michelins on my Mopars, dirt bikes , dual sport and pickup .
I run Michelins on my Mopars, dirt bikes , dual sport and pickup .
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225/60-15 on all 4?, 215/65-15 better choice for daily driving. Any modern tire will outperform the original tires by many times the suspensions design. 65 series tire will have one more inch of sidewall height to improve ride quality.
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Do they make a pilot sport in that size? Or the Goodyear for that matter.
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Only 2 tyres Ive ever had [manufacturing defects] on in my life were michelin. One was on a Ducati, had about 400 miles on it and tumoured a sidewall at 80 mph...glad I felt it in my oh-so-delicate bottom before it blew...
In the size the OP is looking at, I would suggest Mickey Thompsons - similar to the Coopers but use a Goodyear carcass and are made in the US. Currently have BFGs on my old Plymouth and they are fine [on it when I bought it] but turn brown and are made in mexico like the Coopers.
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....and Goodyear now owns Cooper AND Mickey Thompson.
Edit: I just hope they don't mess up the M/T drag radials and race tires.
(And my Cooper pickup tires are made in USA.)
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That is correct. Cooper has made MTs since time immemorial . Interestingly tho, even before the Goodyear acquisition, the 'current line' of M/T street tyres used a Goodyear carcass. [ST]
Several lines of Coopers are still made here, just that the 'cobras' are made in mexico. There are now some Coopers made in red china, so be careful in choosing Cooper, but thats true of nearly all brands these days; many if not most BFGs are made here, but the 'old school' TAs are made in mexico. BFGs 'bottom line' - cant remember the name - are red chinese now too.
When I went to replace the Cooper Discoverer STTs on my Jeep, I noticed the new ones were made in red china whereas the set I had were made in Ohio. Theres 'asian' Goodyears, Firestones and Generals too. Even Continental has started offshoring some there.
Bottom line - read your sidewalls!
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A bit ironically, the BF Goodrich name has been owned by Michelin since 1988. Michelin does actually have (imho) some good rubber compounds (their SuperSport line in particular). Unfortunately for the T/A's about 15 years ago they changed from the "old T/A compound", to a "modern" (but cheaper) worse rubber compound.
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To lob another option out there, I've recently bought Mickey Thompson's. I bought one series for my '64 Polara. Another entirely different series for my '06 Magnum SRT-8. Love them both. Seemed to be nicely priced too.
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If cost is no option, the Michelins are far and away the best tire in the OP's question....
but you aren't going to get them in 225/60/15 sizing.
What size are we talking about here?
but you aren't going to get them in 225/60/15 sizing.
What size are we talking about here?
2: 15 60 r15 and 275 60 r15
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