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Thats pretty much what I was thinking but the kit I received is definitely a universal kit, not that this is a bad thing per se but the directions are a bit lacking. I am not an AC guy so I need to learn it.

I bought a VA system for my 71 Charger but these are not specific to the 71, they are generic/universal, therefore there is not a lot of specific data or instructions provided. The first thing I am looking at is the holes for the original AC/heating system, I can certainly close them up without...

I am talking to Vintage Air now, I would prefer a whole new system.

I finally have begun work on my 71 Charger and am once again thinking about the heater and AC system. I have looked at all the major AC players (Vintage, Classic, Original, etc) and have yet to reach any type of conclusion. I'd like an entirely new system but then there is the control panel...

Its nearly always about the money in one respect or another. I admit that in the past things were banned and changed due to some negative aspect being discovered, however what I have seen in the last 30+ years is things are changed so that a manufacturer can make more money. I worked in the...

In WA State you cannot purchase R124a (or any of its predecessors), I don't know about the manufacture side of it since I have no intentions of make it. You are correct that I could go to another state and buy some and bring it is although technically that is illegal (although pretty much...

My "limitations" are the laws in my state as I have mentioned. R134a has been banned for resale here, sure I could source it illegally from outside the state or perhaps obtain it from agriculture stores since they are still allowed to sell small quantities for the farming community, however...

Thats all great Bob, but I don't need to see reams of data to try out a product. I understand the position but I do not ask for nor look for the MDS on every chemical I use in my shop or on my vehicles. As of this writing it is still America where you can decide to use whatever you like, you...

Bob - while I appreciate your comments and desire to see hard data (which you now have posted several times) I think you need to take it down a notch or 2. The SDS is listed on the website if you care to look. Yes it is flammable which they readily admit, however in my case I do not have a lot...

I am going to "stock up" either way...

While I have owned AC equipped vehicles for many years (like most) I have to admit that I am pretty uneducated about it. I have recharged systems in a vehicle of my vehicles successfully but am not having to educate myself how they actually work, what is required, etc. since I am putting AC into...

I am with you and I was planning on doing something very similar. I did rear about being able to get it at "farm" stores.

You typed 12 but their website says 21+

Just bought a case

One 8 ounce can is equivalent to 21+ ounces of 134a. Got my attention

Thats helpful, thanks. I just looked it up and a case of 8oz enviro-safe is like $100

I wish I could (and yes they are idiots) but I am too far in, I have two 40x60 shops full of Mopars not to mention a lot of other crap, plus I am close to Ft Lewis (aka JBLM) where I retired and still have teammates and friends along with the services on base.

I just looked that up and it appears to be a spray can that you use to clean keyboards and the like.....

I am interested to check it out

That was my next question, is there anything (not banned) that I can use in vehicles that already have R134A?