1969 Plymouth Rd., Runner – what is it worth?

[Rustymopar]

The body – there is bubbling on the lower quarter panel corners. The bumpers are ok driver quality but it comes with new bumpers and a new grill. There's rust in the corner of the windows but not horrible. The trunk has rust but it's not all the way through. The glass is all good. All of the trim is good. The paint is decent. But not great, just old and needs a good waxing. The floor pans you could eat off of. The car is just dirty and dusty from sitting in a trailer for months.

The drivetrain – the motor is a 383 with a 4 speed which runs superstrong and started the first try after sitting months. No leaks no smoke. I'm uncertain if it's the matching numbers or correct date year of the car.

The interior – the headliner is sagging over the backseat and needs a new one. Bucket seats are not correct for the car. So matter-of-fact a the upholstery is ugly but in good shape. The dash is in great shape, it just needs cleaned. Door panels great shape.

Other then lower quarter panels, the car is super solid. It is a pretty rare B body post car 4 speed. It does come with the original split bench seat. Other then lower quarter panels, the car is super solid. It is in my opinion, a very rare Q5 paint code.

Thoughts? Whats it worth? It doesn't need a rotisserie but could be a nice driver as is or the next level with Paint and Upholstery.

 

[Icecobra]

I can see someone spending 10k to turn it in to a driver, 20k to do a pro-touring with new drive train, and 30k to make a decent car show going but not winning any awards. From where it sits you would expect to pay 10k to make it a driver quality worth about 20k car... My opinion...

 

[Rustymopar]

You're saying you think it's only worth $10k as it sits?
It runs great and in my opinion is a driver now.

 

[Basket case]

what's the asking? looks like a solid car, but that rear window rust may be worse than it looks, maybe not. I'd definitely loose those front seat, and the front bench is worth it's weight in gold.

 

[fwi]

Also look up under the dash where the windshield meets and up inside the trunk under the rear window and under the doors, those are all rust's favorite places to hang out.

 

[Rustymopar]

Door lips are solid.. I didn't look up beneath the dash or up under the package tray. Lets assume they are solid for conversation sake but may need some rear window lip work. The bottom of the floor pans are painted. Throw some numbers at me...

 

[mmissile]

It costs 10K to paint a car. The rest of a nice resto would be another 10-15K. You could buy a restored one for that.

 

[Basket case]

well what do you want out of the car....driver,show car?,....I paid $9k in '07 for mine. That got me a rebuilt engine,new interior,4 speed postcard ,puttied up 1/4s with a crappy do it yourself paintjob on a otherwise solid car. Drove it this way until I had the bodywork started in '12. when I was looking, I saw plenty of cars for $16k and up, holes in the body,needing interior.

 

[Sonny Black]

I would say...a roller is 9K, drive train is 7K...extras,1K

Sonny thinks 15,000. to 17,000$ if it all you say it is,,,:thinker:


rear window is a bit scary .....just say 'in.... you asked

 

[Michael789]

I guess it pays to be able to do your own painting and body work to keep costs down ,I think that in today's world paint jobs are like diamonds way over inflated on prices especially with someone with a name.So I think the car you're looking at is a good quality driver as is and should be around 12-15k but no more.You can save your money by learning to do things yourself and YOU CAN LEARN TO DO IT YOURSELF .In no way if your doing a resto by yourself should it cost you another 30 k to do this car. That's what kills this hobby is the way over priced jobs people pay because they think they can't do it ,the big gurus buy the same panels we do,the same paint we do,the same interior we do,and then have their minions but all together except they charge you what your house costs in today's market ...lol it cracks me up.That's ok if you have the money to spend and don't care but really when it comes down to it it's only worth what you can get someone to pay you for it.I think the car looks good as is ,good luck

 

[Speedbird]

No worries.

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Are you buying or selling?
If selling it's worth more.
If buying, less.

 

[Meep-Meep]

Take the restoration cost and back off from there. Also look at prices for done cars. However, as I found out many times, a done car may not be all it's cracked up to be. Lots of shiny polished turds out there.

 

[mmissile]

The details always give away a shiny turd.

 

[Richard Cranium]

It doesn't need a rotisserie but could be a nice driver as is or the next level with Paint and Upholstery.

Most people aren't satisfied with paint/rust bubbles. And that interior leaves a lot to be desired. I can see 20-25 grand easily going into it if you choose to take it to that next level.

 

[steve from staten island]

I think you now have a good idea about whats the worth of the car. If its in your budget and you like and want it,go for it. If we all worry about making money or even breaking even with these cars were in the wrong hobby. The only thing and this is just a opinion as others have told you is that rust issue at the edge of that back window. Id bet your going to have to replace some of that trunk extension piece as what you see is just the tip of the iceberg. You also have to be prepared to multiply many times over the rust you see and what lies in underneith. If your willing and ready have a go at it. Best of luck

 

[KENTON]

I would say...a roller is 9K, drive train is 7K...extras,1K

Sonny thinks 15,000. to 17,000$ if it all you say it is,,,:thinker:


rear window is a bit scary .....just say 'in.... you asked

what Sonny said.

 

[Superfreak]

I would say in the $10,000 - $12,000 range. As stated, the rust can be worse.

 

[wannadrag]

That looks like a good one to leave alone and drive it.Not every one of these cars needs a restoration. 12K

 

[Bruzilla]

I guess it pays to be able to do your own painting and body work to keep costs down ,I think that in today's world paint jobs are like diamonds way over inflated on prices especially with someone with a name.So I think the car you're looking at is a good quality driver as is and should be around 12-15k but no more.You can save your money by learning to do things yourself and YOU CAN LEARN TO DO IT YOURSELF .In no way if your doing a resto by yourself should it cost you another 30 k to do this car. That's what kills this hobby is the way over priced jobs people pay because they think they can't do it ,the big gurus buy the same panels we do,the same paint we do,the same interior we do,and then have their minions but all together except they charge you what your house costs in today's market ...lol it cracks me up.That's ok if you have the money to spend and don't care but really when it comes down to it it's only worth what you can get someone to pay you for it.I think the car looks good as is ,good luck

I think the way I got my car painted is the best I've found so far. Find some pro P&B guy who's looking for work on the side and have him, or her, do it. The good ones will provides lots of references and samples of their work and they'll charge about 1/4 or less of what a shop charges.

As for the value of this car, 68-69 Roadrunners, A bodies, and most all E bodies are flooding the market right now as folks who have been holding on to these cars hoping for prices to go up are unloading them now to beat the sell off. 70 Roadrunners and 68-70 Chargers are still scarce and holding their values well, but the others aren't.

I think the determiners for this car are the rust, which I suspect there is more of than you're seeing now, the interior, the B-5 blue, and the 383. With all those, I would put this car at $7-$8K. I know a lot of people love blue, I hate it, but from a buyer's perspective blue is a limiter because someone who wants to change the color usually has to change the interior as well because blue interiors only go with blue and white exteriors, so those seat covers will have to be replaced. This is why cars with white, black, gray, or tan interiors usually sell for more.

 

[Moparsmitty]

That looks like a good one to leave alone and drive it.Not every one of these cars needs a restoration. 12K

I agree. Not every car needs a $40K restoration. I would take it apart enough to grind out the rust, Bondo it up and throw a Maaco paint job on it, clean it up and have fun driving it. I wouldn't pay more than 12 or 13K just going by the pics.