1st A12 is on Ebay.....

[prhousejr]

First one ever made on ebay now for 149,000.

 

[thebankerstoy]

Here's the ebay link for it. Buy it now price is $199,000.00.

Richard

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250459559304&viewitem=&sspagename=S

 

[Super Stock HEMI]

Back On Yet Again...Must Not Be worth what they thought...EH
Hard to sell anything in this economy..


SS

 

[69 Runner]

Isn't hard to sell anything IF it's priced accordingly. People are still buying and selling cars, and those that are worth it are still bring some pretty tall money. If anything, it seems that geographical location is a bigger thing than it used to be. No one wants to "go" get a car

 

[prhousejr]

Isn't hard to sell anything IF it's priced accordingly. People are still buying and selling cars, and those that are worth it are still bring some pretty tall money. If anything, it seems that geographical location is a bigger thing than it used to be. No one wants to "go" get a car

that was the case in my search. The money was not as much of a problem as it was finding what I wanted less than 500 miles away. I could have bought a car 2 years ago if I had wanted to go to California to get it.... I live in Kentucky........I DON'T FLY!!!:grin:

 

[thebankerstoy]

Well, I'd think that if a person was interested in buying a rare car like this Bee and had deep enough pockets to buy a car for 199K, a couple more thousand to get it transported home in a safe fashion wouldn't be a big concern. :shruggy:

Richard

 

[prhousejr]

Your right about that. My case was not the same though. I am on one of those things called a budget.....

 

[Super Stock HEMI]

Your right about that. My case was not the same though. I am on one of those things called a budget.....

AND That Is My Point...When you see RARE cars like this going for Pennies on the dollar from a couple years ago then you know THE SKY IS FALLING....

This same car a few years ago would have sold for about double of what he is asking for this one BUY-IT-NOW....
My HEMI 1 of 1 Car has decreased in Value over the last couple years...BUT..I've owned it since '81 and WONT sell....(I wont say NEVER But not as long as I can help it)...I have sold too many RARE cars over the years for GOOD money for the markets at that time and now am regretting it(Like Most have done themselves)...


The Work these Fellas do is phenomenal...They are not too far from me(200 Miles or so)and I have been there to look at a couple of their cars for potential buyers...Like I said They Do Great Work AND they have a Outstanding Inventory....

SS

 

[prhousejr]

Back On Yet Again...Must Not Be worth what they thought...EH
Hard to sell anything in this economy..


SS

yeah, i guess, but you said "must not be worth what they thought" Now your saying it is worth twice as much......:edgy:

 

[Super Stock HEMI]

yeah, i guess, but you said "must not be worth what they thought" Now your saying it is worth twice as much......:edgy:

In A Different Economy Maybe...Not at Todays Prices where everyone is afraid what their Money that they DO Have is going to do...

I Have a Couple of Friends that are Millionaires and when they or I would see a good investment such as this They Would Buy it...Today they wont touch buying ANYTHING.....Money is too unstable..


SS

 

[dbowperson]

The top tier cars are not nearly as affected in today's economy. It takes a special person to drop that kind of cash whether the economy is strong or in the tanks.

 

[69 Runner]

That car wouldn't have sold for $400K "a few years ago". It might have sold at the $200K they want now. And without saying for how much (cause it's nobody's business) I got some really good money for my A-12 when I sold it.


Now it was/is a very unique car, but it sold for more than some done cars (bid to on ebay), and it needed a full resto (although it was basically complete, correct, running and driving). It's new owner is happy with the deal, "I'M" happy with the deal, and he came 1/2 way across the country to get it as well.

These transactions are still taking place. Mine was not the first or the last. But that car is overpriced now, and may well have been (at the same price) two years ago. There were only a couple of A-12s that ever brought that kind of money.

 

[prhousejr]

The top tier cars are not nearly as affected in today's economy. It takes a special person to drop that kind of cash whether the economy is strong or in the tanks.

thats right.:yes:

 

[AdamR]

Very nice car but that place is way over priced on everything they sell in my opinion.

 

[thebankerstoy]

Very nice car but that place is way over priced on everything they sell in my opinion.

Maybe not for some folks with more cash than desire to build their own cars. Cars of this kind are really no longer cars but rather "investments" to be bought and sold like any other collectible that is rare and hard to find.

Richard

 

[dbowperson]

Maybe not for some folks with more cash than desire to build their own cars. Cars of this kind are really no longer cars but rather "investments" to be bought and sold like any other collectible that is rare and hard to find.

Richard

I agree. The truly rare muscle cars will rebound in value at some point. Maybe not to the level we say 3 years ago, but they'll come back. Besides, a completely restored car today should last another 30+ years, and who knows what they will be worth then.

 

[thebankerstoy]

I agree. The truly rare muscle cars will rebound in value at some point. Maybe not to the level we say 3 years ago, but they'll come back. Besides, a completely restored car today should last another 30+ years, and who knows what they will be worth then.

Every year that goes by, a few more cars are lost forever due to some kind of an accident, be it floods, or fires, or whatever, which means that there will be fewer and fewer of ANY kind of muscle cars left from the 60's and 70's, let alone the ones that had really low production numbers to begin with. The bee in this auction is a rare car to begin with and if it's everything they say it is, including being driven by Ronnie Sox, it should hold it's value for many years to come, or at least as long as any of us who are old enough to have seen, or remember how Ronnie Sox destroyed the competition on the drag strip are still around. :yes: On the one hand, I'm REALLY glad to see that these cars are still around and being taken care of, but on the other hand, I hate to know that for the most part, they will NEVER be driven and enjoyed like they were meant to be, because they are just to rare and valuable.

Richard

 

[dbowperson]

It's really a double edged sword. It would be great to see these cars still being driven, but that also increases the chances that they will be destroyed, stolen, crashed, etc, and then gone forever.

 

[prhousejr]

Maybe not for some folks with more cash than desire to build their own cars. Cars of this kind are really no longer cars but rather "investments" to be bought and sold like any other collectible that is rare and hard to find.

Richard

That is the problem with the "hobby" now.... To many rich guys....To many dang high dollar auctions which are nothing more than pissing contests.... The very reason a poor sap like me has to nickel and dime my way into a daily driver....These cars are meant to be driven. period. Someone who don't even own a toolbox don't need one of these cars. My opinion, it don't amount to much.....

 

[69 R/T]

I bought my R/T in North Carolina and I live in California. I paid big bucks for it from a consignment classic car dealer. I spent a lot on time on the phone with the sales manager, the appraiser and had more photos taken because I didn't want to fly 3000 miles out there. Did it work? Heck yeah it did! 35k for the car plus 1100 for "covered wagon" shipping to my work. When it rolled off the carrier, it was better than Viagra!

My point is, go with your gut and do what makes you happy. I cashed out a pre-tax IRA to buy this thing, so essentially it cost double. And yes, it was worth it! Just my two cents on the subject.