Affordable Superbird

[68 HEMI GTS]

Gotta wonder what happened to this thing.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/292226062498

 

[Bruzilla]

No way in Hell I would touch that car. If all the numbers are missing you can bet they are on another car, which would mean this would have a duplicate VIN when you went to title it and I can see a whole host of legal issues coming out of that fiasco.

 

[gtxno1]

I saw that thing at Carlisle you need a dust pan and broom and just sweep it up there is nothing useable

 

[Montclaire]

The bigger question is where the numbers went. The seller states that many people in the "Mopar community" know where the title and fender tag are...

 

[moparnation74]

He states this is a well known car....I bet the Aero guys over on DC.com have a back in the day picture and know the previous owners...

The wing cars and the owners are a different breed and almost all are accounted for and the histories of them are well known. The Aero guys are true mopar historians when it comes solely to the wing cars....

 

[Montclaire]

Yeah, but not quite fair to someone who doesn't have 40 years of wing car knowledge upstairs and buys a bird thinking it's real.

 

[Dreamcatcher]

That car was in a fire years back. I seen it about 5+ years ago. At that time there were numbers on the car and it was offered for sale. Almost certain it is the same car.

 

[super-bee_ski]

Wow!

 

[moparnation74]

Yeah, but not quite fair to someone who doesn't have 40 years of wing car knowledge upstairs and buys a bird thinking it's real.

Read the ad....it was once real....the seller states ALL numbers are removed....also, states in the ad a "well Known" history....So either someone buys for parts or they think they can find the numbers/paperwork to rebody it....Hence, there is absolutely NO elusiveness of the seller that falls on what the buyer plans to do with it...

So I do not get your "unfair" statement because the seller stated everything about the car to inform the buyer as to what this hunk of scrap once was and what it is sold AS....Unfair I think not...

Also, the well known history could spin out the car was rebodied and thats a big rut roohh moment for the rebodied car and if someone is trying to rebody this junk...

 

[Bruzilla]

Read the ad....it was once real....the seller states ALL numbers are removed....also, states in the ad a "well Known" history....So either someone buys for parts or they think they can find the numbers/paperwork to rebody it....Hence, there is absolutely NO elusiveness of the seller that falls on what the buyer plans to do with it...

So I do not get your "unfair" statement because the seller stated everything about the car to inform the buyer as to what this hunk of scrap once was and what it is sold AS....Unfair I think not...

Also, the well known history could spin out the car was rebodied and thats a big rut roohh moment for the rebodied car and if someone is trying to rebody this junk...

Yeah, but a rut rohh moment for who? Not the person with the rebodied car, especially if it's been titled. As far as the law is concerned, that rebodied car is that VIN. If it has the body tag, and all the parts that are VIN stamped on that body, then that body is that VIN, and no court is going to accept someone coming up with some paperwork, a good story, and a VIN-less body as evidence to rule a titled car is not original.

 

[moparnation74]

Yeah, but a rut rohh moment for who? Not the person with the rebodied car, especially if it's been titled. As far as the law is concerned, that rebodied car is that VIN. If it has the body tag, and all the parts that are VIN stamped on that body, then that body is that VIN, and no court is going to accept someone coming up with some paperwork, a good story, and a VIN-less body as evidence to rule a titled car is not original.

I really do not care for who?

These cars are a slippery slope and the seller described his ad well to inform a buyer...

 

[Ranger16]

$1825? He must be smok'in some good stuff.

 

[Montclaire]

Also, the well known history could spin out the car was rebodied and thats a big rut roohh moment for the rebodied car and if someone is trying to rebody this junk...

That's what I am talking about, there are really only two reasons to take the tags; one, some person decides to make themselves the "guardian of the numbers" to make sure the VIN doesn't resurface, or, two, actual rebody or intent to rebody.

What this person is selling on ebay is a real bird. Whether it stays a curiosity, or takes a walk through the AMD catalog, doesn't really matter. What does matter is if the "aero community" knows for sure that there is a rebody out there, does nothing about it, and then some unsuspecting person buys it. That's the part that is unfair.

 

[Montclaire]

Yeah, but a rut rohh moment for who? Not the person with the rebodied car, especially if it's been titled. As far as the law is concerned, that rebodied car is that VIN. If it has the body tag, and all the parts that are VIN stamped on that body, then that body is that VIN, and no court is going to accept someone coming up with some paperwork, a good story, and a VIN-less body as evidence to rule a titled car is not original.

I wouldn't be so sure. Especially if the fender tag and original title are one place, and the VIN tag is in another, and you can get an expert to testify in court as to what the junker is/was.

 

[SteveSS]

Remember the beginning of the original Gone in Sixty Seconds? They stole an E body that looked like their wrecked one and transferred all the tags to the stolen one. I've often wondered if that would work?

 

[SteveSS]

Which makes me wonder, where are all the VIN numbers on our B bodies. For instance my '69 and '71

 

[moparnation74]

That's what I am talking about, there are really only two reasons to take the tags; one, some person decides to make themselves the "guardian of the numbers" to make sure the VIN doesn't resurface, or, two, actual rebody or intent to rebody.

What this person is selling on ebay is a real bird. Whether it stays a curiosity, or takes a walk through the AMD catalog, doesn't really matter. What does matter is if the "aero community" knows for sure that there is a rebody out there, does nothing about it, and then some unsuspecting person buys it. That's the part that is unfair.

Ahh I see montclair, my error...apologies..

I do agree with you

 

[Richard Cranium]

I saw that thing at Carlisle you need a dust pan and broom and just sweep it up there is nothing useable

And each time it gets moved, some more dust and chunks fall off.

 

[moparnation74]

I wouldn't be so sure. Especially if the fender tag and original title are one place, and the VIN tag is in another, and you can get an expert to testify in court as to what the junker is/was.

Exactly, some people think they know what they are talking about but most know this person does not...

 

[conv67bdere]

I thought you said super bird ?

But the pic is a Super turd