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    im trying to build an old school gasser look ,straight axel etc. but was told that some early AFX SUPER STOCK cars used a special offset control arms that pushed the front suspension farther up in the wheel wells ive never seen these but I as told this was called the 2% gasser or something can someone elaborate thanks
     
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      I am by NO means an expert, but in 64, a year prior to the full-on altered wheelbase cars, there were 2% cars (if i remember right, Dick Landy was the first). They started fudging the fender well openings, and moved both the front and rear wheels forward as much as they thought they could get away with, keeping the stock wheelbase dimensions, because nhra would check. I think they altered the front control arms, and the location of the front leaf spring boxes. If i remember right, it was for super stock. Then they were caught, so they really moved the wheelbase for match racing, then nhra created A/FX for them. The rest is funnycar history.
       
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        There are pics out there, but it seems most of the 2%ers became full-on awb cars. Landy's sure did.
         
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          This is the 2% offset control arm to match the moved forward 4" approximately, K member

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            I might add that you also need the appropriately lengthened torsion bars
             
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              I saw the video on the landy cars and was wondering if he ever put out a book or how to I am getting the book by steve magnante looks like good reading
               
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              The strickler & landy 64 hemi cars are 2% & strickler is currently being restored.
               
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                There is (or was) a shop in socal that specialized in recreating awb cars. Magnante built a 426crossram lookalike for a 65 awb dart that was built there. I cant remember the name, but i'm sure it will be mentioned in his awb book.
                 
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                I remember that car looked good
                 
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                The guy that did the fabrication on Steve Mag's Dart was Dale Snoke. Not sure if he is doing AWB cars anymore, have not seen much on him recently.

                SS and A/FX in Arizona has done a few of them.

                There was also Mr. Rich out in Seattle though not sure if he is building AWB cars anymore either. That guy was the best at it, he totally nailed them.
                 
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                  Yep. I havent seen that dart in a long time, probably since Magnante moved out of socal.
                  When irwindale dragstrip was open, i used to see Dale Snokes comet awb car quite often.
                  Didnt his shop have a name? I remember seeing it on the dart.
                   
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                    The Funny Car Farm
                     
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                      That's it!!
                       
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                      Just my opinion but steve's book really isn't all that great other than the build of his car it's really just a rehash of old hot rod magazines, I think you would be better off with the old chrysler technical report which I think can be found online. Or one of these are my personal favorites which are more factually correct if you're looking for info on the 2% & afrx cars. We were the Ramchargers , Super stock , Stunkard book "hemi" , Pete haldimans book journey through hemi land is decent if you can find one.

                      I think SS & AFX built are far the nicest & most correct cars along with moshers but he only did one & said he will never do another. I've been around a few Mr. Rich's & own one of his they are not that nice at all & seen home builts more correct & detail oriented than his.
                       
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                        I've never thought that "nice" and "altered wheelbase car" should be mentioned in the same breath. In fact, the original ones were quite crude. I've crawled under a few real ones (Yankee Peddler, Lee Smith) they are definitely purpose-built race cars that were never meant for the car-buying public, no one would ever mistake one for a showroom floor model. If you look at it from that perspective, over-restoring these cars and making them perfect (read=expensive) goes against the original intent.
                         
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                        I was trying to be polite by saying "nice" & should of just said his cars are half assed, I've also been around a few real ones before, during & after restoration.
                         
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                        OK, fair enough. IMG_1778.JPG IMG_1782.JPG IMG_1779.JPG
                         
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                          We like 'em pretty :)
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