The prior owner had put an all around disc brake kit in my 67 Charger. I been working on it since May now and I keep finding problems with everything. Well, here is what I found today. Every so often when I turn the wheel, like say backing out of my driveway, I can hear and feel like something is binding. Feels and sounds like it in the dash. Well, this morning I set to find out what's going on. When I have the wheels at full lock the front brake hoses slip inside the rim and rub against it. I could never replicate the sound just by turning the steering wheel all the way back and forth, it would only do it in motion. I think what's happening is the hose when I pull out of my driveway and have the steering wheel all the way to the right, that hose on the driver side is catching the caliper. The kit did not use rubber hoses, they are braided, more of like a plastic braided hose. The kit for the front is from a 79 Aspen, and those hoses have a bracket that gets mounted to the frame somehow. I might just have to try a 12' rubber line with a banjo style. Anyone else have a problem with a disc brake conversion like this?
Brake hoses are rubbing on the rims.
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It can happen very easy when swapping parts around. Many different calipers and hose styles, even on factory mopars over the years.
Question, the hose goes fron the hard line on the frame to the calipers. So if it's catching on the calipers it would have to fun in a circle?
Question, the hose goes fron the hard line on the frame to the calipers. So if it's catching on the calipers it would have to fun in a circle?
This is how it sits in the car. As i turn the wheel it goes between the rim and the caliper. The passenger side is down and wont catch the caliper but will rub on the rim. Im thinking a shorter more original line.
gkent
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That's a known problem when swapping to a '69 or earlier b-body with rear-mounted calipers and sway bay tabs on the LCA's. This is a "Disc-o-tech" swap that was popular a number of years ago BUT with those known issues.
I've done that swap but used different caliupers than what you have. Mine are from an '82 Dodge Diplomat (Duralast C232 & C233) and the lines mount on the bottom and must mount at the angle shown. My hoses came from Dr. Diff. I have no issues.
I've done that swap but used different caliupers than what you have. Mine are from an '82 Dodge Diplomat (Duralast C232 & C233) and the lines mount on the bottom and must mount at the angle shown. My hoses came from Dr. Diff. I have no issues.
sam dupont
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My '69 GT6 came with springs holding the front brake hoses back. They looked factory
gkent
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What's a "fargen icehole"? And for what it's worth, this wasn't a kit, it's aĺl original Mopar parts !!! Do your research before you start bitchin' !!!!
I wish I could have done the research on this. The kit was put in by the prior owner.
gkent
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Thanks, but I think he bought the kit from discbrakekits.com. He put in rear disc brakes as well. That wasn't installed right either. Had a ton of problems with that as well.
I was reading what you sent me. It says that Imperial rear disc brakes are not worth the effort.
gkent
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There's nothing wrong with good ol' drum brakes on our old Mope's! I only did the front swap on mine because '69 rotors, calipers and parts are virtually unobtainable.
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I have done the A body disc swap numerous times on pre 70 b bodies.
The caliper has to mount in the rear, plus that makes room for the sway bar.
Use a 73 up B body hose. It has the block to caliper mount style banjo connection.
The hose sweep will touch ( just touch, not rub) the rail at full lock on the inside turn only.
The caliper has to mount in the rear, plus that makes room for the sway bar.
Use a 73 up B body hose. It has the block to caliper mount style banjo connection.
The hose sweep will touch ( just touch, not rub) the rail at full lock on the inside turn only.
I think tomorrow I'm going to try and find a sweet angle for what I have now. Hopefully I can do it, if not, I will have to get the Diplomat calipers.
sam dupont
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99% of the time, even with single masters. The 1 % is rolling near 100 mph on a two lane blacktop in rural Wyoming half way through passing a line of 5 or 6 cars and a car appears on the rise, the knuckles go white as the brakes go away .
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Those are the most important hoses on your car. They should not rub or twist at any point of suspension and steering travel. Factory installations have the hoses crossing the steering axis. I added hose mounts on the front, for my rear mounted calipers.
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You got it.
I tried to angle it on the driver side caliper to no avail. So I figured I would try and turn it around where it meets at the frame. I think it’s ok now. Doesn’t go near the caliper or the wheel. The passenger side fought me a bit. The best I could do was to have the line rest on the lower control arm when making a right turn. And that's at full lock.
All the way to the right.
All the way to the left.
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How about resting on the lower control arm when making a right turn. I wanted to take a picture, but couldn't get under it. I might have to try and get a line that's a couple of inches shorter. That should bring it up enough not to rest on the lower control arm.
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