I paid double the price for my used charger than it cost new in 69

[Michael_]

New it cost 3652,28$ which is 25515,60$ in todays money.

When you think about it.
Its a 51 year old car with matching signs of use.
But on the other hand still better than everything made today.

Its the ultimate proof things get more expensive by the day.
Just look what a good optioned new challenger or charger rt costs.
And those are cheaply made cars compared to the old ones.
If you take quality into account you are paying way more than double the price you did in 69.

World is upside down.
I just ask who is gonna (or at least being able to) buy those expensive cars anyway?

 

[super-bee_ski]

Richard Cranium!

 

[chargervert]

Your right, it's him,and he is not sharing them with anyone else!

 

[DeltaV]

and DeltaV among others. I didn't pay MSRP two weeks ago for my wife's well optioned 2020 Dodge Charger R/T.

 

[Michael_]

What do you get for 25 grand these days? A toyota corolla?

And if you compare a 69 hemi car (which was then the most expensive one) with a SRT Hellcat Redeye widebody (Which is now the most expensive one) its even more ridiculous.

 

[DeltaV]

Higher because of pent-up demand.

Chrysler has been holding out on us for 50 years!

 

[Michael_]

The thing is everything is more expensive these days.
But people do not really earn more. I even feel like most people earn less these days. (corrected to inflation of course)

Its at least not to easy making lots of money these days.
Still cars continue to get more and more expensive.

 

[Bad B-rad]

The cars ARE getting more expensive, but they are also loaded with so much more crap, whether you want it or not.
Some stuff is mandated by government, some by MFG.
You cant get any Mopar Hemi car made today, with out PS,PL, PW, A/C, air bags, and so on(no radio delete)

If you take that 69 Hemi Charger(top dog then) and line it up next to todays baby 5.7 Hemi, performance wise, the 5.7 wins, in almost every measurable way(not cool factor, but cant measure that), and has A/C and can get 20+MPG.
I have a 69 Charger 383 auto, I know the wife's car will blow me out of the water.
That being said, I STILL RATHER DRIVE the 69.
We all enjoy our B-bodies, and the 426 Hemi is a legendary engine, but these new Hemis are no joke either.
Now a 4 door Charger may seam like a joke, until you punch that throttle.

Only time will tell, but I personally don't think todays R/T cars will ever go up in value comprabile to our vintage R/T's, but I bet people said that about the vintage cars, when they were new and just modes of transport.

 

[Michael_]

Well of course thats true but i doubt it costs them much more to build. (I dont know, though)
Its much cheaper to (mass) produce these days.

Only time will tell, but I personally don't think todays R/T cars will ever go up in value comprabile to our vintage R/T's, but I bet people said that about the vintage cars, when they were new and just modes of transport.

Thats another interesting question.
One could say they will never be collectors items because they build so many of them.
But if you look at old mustangs and corvettes there are also tons of them out there but still very popular classics these days.
I think the more fancier ones might go up at some point. At least if they hold up that long. The cheap electronics most likely are the weakest point in new cars.

 

[Bad B-rad]

I am not sure if its more expensive for them to make the cars today, but I have no doubt that the BIG WIGS are making way more money today, and getting much bigger bonuses, and they past the cost on to us!!!!


The other thing is what is the going price of a 66-71 Hemi Charger today?
I bet one could buy a new Hellcat and still have cash left over, vs the vintage hemi.
The vintage iron will hold its value much better.
I cant afford either. LOL
(That's why I only have a 5.7 vs a 6.4 Scat Pack)

 

[DeltaV]

The parts obsolescence of electronic components is problematic for sure. We can never rely on the OEM to keep service parts for our new cars. They won't do it. However, it only takes an enterprising startup company to refurbish/repair or provide new (and improved) electronic assemblies. Of course, salvage yards can be a good source for replacement parts.

That being said, and this comes from my 40+ years in aerospace, if your car's complex/integrated electronics seem to be acting up it's most likely NOT the computer and software doesn't break. It's more likely to be a bad ground or intermittent open pin in an electrical connector; or a bad sensor.

I haven't ordered a service manual for the 2020 Charger yet, but I hope they are as good as manuals for Audi and BMW.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Richard Cranium!

https://www.google.com/search?q=you...oECA0QAQ&biw=393&bih=658#imgrc=pn02MtjozceEYM

 

[Hey-O]

For starters, each car built has around 4000 dollars built into it for insurance cost for employees, this I know. I said the same thing years ago, who's buying these things and people keep buying. You don't have to have money to buy one, good credit and 84 months with 0% ARP on some. I'm not giving advise on cash or 0% ARP for 84 months, that's a no brainier.

• 2 million vehicles are repossessed every year
• 5,418 repossessions every day
• 226 car repossessions each hour
• 3.76 repossessions a minute

In Chicago alone each night there are 10,000 repossession opportunities for tow trucks. 6.7 million buyers are over the 90-day default term, buy now, pay never.

None of us will be around if and when some of these car become collectible. Don't buy one thinking it's a one day money maker for you or your kids, Hellcat, no, Demon, maybe.

 

[Geetex]

In Chicago alone each night there are 10,000 repossession opportunities for tow trucks.

https://wgntv.com/news/wgn-investig...ot-1-used-in-deadly-chase-throughout-chicago/
Chicago might be a bad example, these got repossessed right off the dealer lot. The tow drivers aren't much better.