My '63 MW Build

1962 - 1965 Mopars

  1. VANDAN

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    I'm gonna post this, as my build is hitting 5yrs in the making, this year. I doubt if I will ever go back to a step by step thread on it, so I'm pretty excited about this phase. It should be on the dyno this Month... 10098.jpeg 10132.jpeg
     
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      That sure is pretty...
       
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        nice 64 intake, hard to find!
         
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        That looks great. Whats the basic combo of the eng ? Ron
         
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        Thanks Ron, it's a new "old" MP 440 block, bored & stroked, cast iron MP MW heads, 750 Eddy carbs, will be running the elephant ear CI exhaust manifolds. The engine was run in on Friday, and the initial #'s were quite stout ! After seeing these, we decided to change the oil pan to a larger capacity, for some extra insurance on keeping it well lubed, as the torque reading had stump pulling capability. Next up is dialing the tune into it for max performance... 10403.jpeg
         
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          Thanks for the info on that cool eng. Are you using a roller or flat tappet cam ? Ron
           
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          Very nice !
           
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            Custom ground roller. My builder tried to get it to street drive, and track perform. Maybe by the end of the year, we'll find out.
             
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              That looks great
               
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                Interested to see the dyno numbers
                 
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                  The virus lockdown has kind of limited the ability to get down to the shop to hear it for a few pulls, once it's dialed in. I'm hoping the early Spring sends the virus packing, so I can head south. I'll share the early #'s, ponies @ 580, trq @ 620+...
                   
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                    I'm curious about several things because I'm going a very similar route with the build of my 64 Polara convertible...

                    - Are you're running power or manual brakes in your car? If power, do you believe you'll get the proper vacuum for the brake booster out of that intake?

                    - Is your oil pan upgrade going to be the newly repopped Max Wedge oil pan? I'm considering buying one for my build because it solves any clearance issues with the K member and/or steering linkage and that oil pan just adds the correct bottom end Max Wedge appearance to your MW top end.

                    Thanks!
                     
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                    I'm curious about several things because I'm going a very similar route with the build of my 64 Polara convertible...

                    - Are you're running power or manual brakes in your car? If power, do you believe you'll get the proper vacuum for the brake booster out of that intake?

                    - Is your oil pan upgrade going to be the newly repopped Max Wedge oil pan? I'm considering buying one for my build because it solves any clearance issues with the K member and/or steering linkage and that oil pan just adds the correct bottom end Max Wedge appearance to your MW top end.

                    Thanks![/QUOTE]
                    Steve, I'm just keeping the manual brakes, although I have upgraded to a dual bowl M/C. I'm also using the Stock style exhaust manifolds, so I don't think they'd fit with the booster. I will need to draw vacuum for my heater controls, and the X-ram has the port for a fitting.
                    As for the oil pan, we did install a New re-pop MW pan, and ran the engine through break-in, and the first few dyno pulls. After seeing the numbers, and considering the cost involved in the build, we decided to go back to my original plan, and use a Milodon that I modified, before the MW re-pops were out, as it has a larger capacity by 1-1/2 qts. I didn't want to take a chance on an oil issue if this car sees more track time than I had planned. The original looked very correct, and would probably be fine for street driving, and occasional track times, but after 5yrs waiting for this to come about, I'm taking no chances. The re-pop took some work to fit as the windage tray needed modding, along with building the oil pick up to fit this pan, as no one is offering a plug & play model right now. I may be putting it up for sale in the future, as a set, pan, windage tray, and the 1/2" pick-up tube. It would be great for a strict MW build...

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                      I might add that that although my eng is not a real Max Wedge eng as its a 440/493 and I use a solid flat tappet cam that's 264 & 270 @ .050 with .585 & .592 lift on a 110 LSA. And as you can see I run the stock power drum brakes. Once the car runs a minute it builds enough vacuum in the booster that the brakes have ok assist on the first hit of the pedal. On long hits like on a beltway exit ramp the pedal will start loosing vacum and start to get a little hard but I am used to it and have been driving my 63 like this since 2011. And when I race it I have no problem slowing down in the shutdown area from 125 mph passes. But honestly if I ever make my car faster then about 10.50's as its run 10.70's then I will definetly switch to disc brakes. And of course I went to a dual M/C before I ever put the car on the road. Or if I come up with the money to but a disc brake setup I will install it as soon as I can. But it works fine as it is right now for me. Also I use the Moroso 7 qt oil pan because it fits on the eng and in the car with no mods at all. No cutting on my K-frame and its the original K-frame. Ron

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                          Really, really, REALLY Nice!!!
                           
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                          • VANDAN

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                            Well, the engine was tuned last week, and I was hoping to get down to NC, and hear a few pulls, but it doesn't appear to be in the cards. Really disappointed, after waiting 4+ yrs to get this far, but I don't want to be responsible for taking the virus along too. As requested, here are the #'s from the shop, Happy & A Blessed Easter to All ! 11101.jpeg 11035.jpeg
                             
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                              Super nice build! Great numbers and looks awesome. What color paint did you use if you don't mind me asking?
                               
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                              I believe it's a PPG Recipe, that's applied by a Very Trusted Artist, who happens to be My God Son ! I'm hoping He's willing to share it someday ?
                               
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