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I have held off posting this for over a month now allowing Myles Karn an opportunity to make this right.
BEWARE!!! Anyone thinking of doing business with Myles Karn that is District Manager of Saskatchewan in Canada for some type of air service should first read this to find out what kind of a guy he is. A lot to read but it will give you an idea of his character and lack of honesty.
I purchased a 1966 Dodge Charger from Myles Karn and he lied to me about many things.
I found the car in an ended Ebay auction that the car was sold on but the buyer never completed the purchase.
I have a 5 page pre-purchase checklist that I went over in detail with the Myles Karn and emphasized things like dash lights, headlight motors, tach, etc. which are common problem areas for a 1st gen. Charger and expensive to repair. Seller said all of these things worked, well they didn’t but more on this later.
This car was in Canada in a remote area near the Washington state border. I looked at every possibility for transport and one-way trip to get there and the most economical was to take the dreaded two day bus trip that turned into 3 days with delays and an additional $220. cab ride. I arrived at a small Washington town just south of the border to a storage unit that Myles Karn had transported the car to so I did not have to deal with the border crossing situation. I finally arrived at 9 PM on Sat. evening. The car was sitting with the hood opened and the battery cable disconnected. I wanted to check the fluids before starting it but it was too dark in the storage unit to do so I decided to drive it to a lighted gas station. The car fires right up and sound and runs great however when I turn the lights on the dash lights don’t work. I got to the gas station only to find there was no inside hood release to be found. The handle and cable all missing. I get on my back on the ground and look up under the car and can see the hood latch release and figure I can reach it with the jack handle. I go to the trunk and find that the complete jack that Myles Karn told me it has is has no handle. Now I am worried about what else this guy has lied about. I check the spare and although a new tire it is flat.
I could not drive at night without dash lights so I had to stay in the only available flea-bag room in this small town hotel. Left at day break Sun. without being able to check fluids and drove through a lot of small towns with no real parts store opened to find anything that could work for opening the hood. Finally stopped for gas next to a motor home and asked the driver if he had anything that might work and he came up with a stiff camping type hotdog fork. It worked so I offered him $10. which he of course agreed to, reached in my pocket and the smallest I had was a twenty so now I am the proud owner of the highest priced hotdog fork on the planet. All was well under the hood except the oil level and power steering fluid which was leaking at a hose fitting. That evening I go to rotate the headlights up and the passenger side won’t come up. I get to looking around and find a scotch tape dispenser lodged between the headlight bucket and a bracket with the motor still trying to turn and now it doesn’t work so I guess it burned it up. A mishap that could happen to anyone and I do not hold Myles Karn responsible for this.
I asked the condition of the engine and if it burned any oil or smoked and he said no. It burned 6 quarts of oil on the 1650 mile trip--275 miles per quart.
What kind of a guy sells you a car KNOWING that you are going make a trip like that with no dash lights, no jack handle, a flat spare and no way to get under the hood to check the oil burning engine? The Myles Karn type of guy I guess, so BEWARE you have been warned about Myles Karn.
Below is a copy of the email I sent him after arriving home in Arizona with the car. There have been many emails since and Myles Karn has now stopped responding to them leaving me in the dust to deal with this on my own.
Miles,
Several things regarding the car.
1. I went to the Arizona DMV office to title and license the car with the
title you gave me and the Canadian title is incorrect with the V.I.N. as
they left out the 3rd and 4th character which should be 29 as per the V.I.N.
plate. They will not transfer the title and said that the title has to be
corrected in Canada with a new title issued before they will issue me an
Arizona title. You will have to deal with that on your end.
2. I asked you very detailed specific questions about the car before I
bought it.
A. I Asked if everything worked to which you replied all but the radio.
I was delayed in picking up the car until Saturday evening at 9:00. When I
opened the storage unit I found the car with the hood opened and the battery
cable disconnected. I wanted to check all of the fluids before starting the
car and driving it but it was dark so I decided to drive to a gas station
with light to do so. When I got to the gas station I found there was no hood
release cable to open the hood again.
B. I thought I could use the lug wrench to reach the hood latch from
under the car only to find that there was none. You told me the car had the
original jack. A jack includes a jack handle to remove the lug nuts and jack
the car up.
C. I specifically asked after asking if everything worked about the
dash lights and tach as these are expensive thing to consider on a 1966
Charger purchase and you said they worked, they don't.
D. I asked the condition of the engine and if it burned any oil or
smoked and you said no. It burned 6 quarts of oil on the 1650 mile trip--275
miles per quart.
E. When I asked about the lights, brakes etc. you said the cars in
Canada have to pass a safety inspection and that it had a current one and
all these items worked. The brake lights don't.
F. I asked about the power windows and you said they all worked and that
you had recently repaired one of the rear ones. The passenger side rear
window does not go down with the rear switch. It does with the master
drivers control and goes up with the rear switch but not down.
I searched all over the US and Canada for a good quality driver 1966 Charger
and reviewed them all before committing to buy your car prior to sending you
the money. In fact, before I sent you the money another owner contacted me
with an offer to sell his like condition car that I actually preferred his
color over yours but I told him I had already given my word to purchase your
and being a man of my word would not back out of the deal. I did everything
I said I would do based on your word about the car. Of course I am less than
pleased about this.
In addition to correcting the title I ask that you at least pay for the
repair of the dash lights and tach, the other items I will eat.
This requires your immediate attention and response.
Sincerely,
Darryl Dayton
BEWARE!!! Anyone thinking of doing business with Myles Karn that is District Manager of Saskatchewan in Canada for some type of air service should first read this to find out what kind of a guy he is. A lot to read but it will give you an idea of his character and lack of honesty.
I purchased a 1966 Dodge Charger from Myles Karn and he lied to me about many things.
I found the car in an ended Ebay auction that the car was sold on but the buyer never completed the purchase.
I have a 5 page pre-purchase checklist that I went over in detail with the Myles Karn and emphasized things like dash lights, headlight motors, tach, etc. which are common problem areas for a 1st gen. Charger and expensive to repair. Seller said all of these things worked, well they didn’t but more on this later.
This car was in Canada in a remote area near the Washington state border. I looked at every possibility for transport and one-way trip to get there and the most economical was to take the dreaded two day bus trip that turned into 3 days with delays and an additional $220. cab ride. I arrived at a small Washington town just south of the border to a storage unit that Myles Karn had transported the car to so I did not have to deal with the border crossing situation. I finally arrived at 9 PM on Sat. evening. The car was sitting with the hood opened and the battery cable disconnected. I wanted to check the fluids before starting it but it was too dark in the storage unit to do so I decided to drive it to a lighted gas station. The car fires right up and sound and runs great however when I turn the lights on the dash lights don’t work. I got to the gas station only to find there was no inside hood release to be found. The handle and cable all missing. I get on my back on the ground and look up under the car and can see the hood latch release and figure I can reach it with the jack handle. I go to the trunk and find that the complete jack that Myles Karn told me it has is has no handle. Now I am worried about what else this guy has lied about. I check the spare and although a new tire it is flat.
I could not drive at night without dash lights so I had to stay in the only available flea-bag room in this small town hotel. Left at day break Sun. without being able to check fluids and drove through a lot of small towns with no real parts store opened to find anything that could work for opening the hood. Finally stopped for gas next to a motor home and asked the driver if he had anything that might work and he came up with a stiff camping type hotdog fork. It worked so I offered him $10. which he of course agreed to, reached in my pocket and the smallest I had was a twenty so now I am the proud owner of the highest priced hotdog fork on the planet. All was well under the hood except the oil level and power steering fluid which was leaking at a hose fitting. That evening I go to rotate the headlights up and the passenger side won’t come up. I get to looking around and find a scotch tape dispenser lodged between the headlight bucket and a bracket with the motor still trying to turn and now it doesn’t work so I guess it burned it up. A mishap that could happen to anyone and I do not hold Myles Karn responsible for this.
I asked the condition of the engine and if it burned any oil or smoked and he said no. It burned 6 quarts of oil on the 1650 mile trip--275 miles per quart.
What kind of a guy sells you a car KNOWING that you are going make a trip like that with no dash lights, no jack handle, a flat spare and no way to get under the hood to check the oil burning engine? The Myles Karn type of guy I guess, so BEWARE you have been warned about Myles Karn.
Below is a copy of the email I sent him after arriving home in Arizona with the car. There have been many emails since and Myles Karn has now stopped responding to them leaving me in the dust to deal with this on my own.
Miles,
Several things regarding the car.
1. I went to the Arizona DMV office to title and license the car with the
title you gave me and the Canadian title is incorrect with the V.I.N. as
they left out the 3rd and 4th character which should be 29 as per the V.I.N.
plate. They will not transfer the title and said that the title has to be
corrected in Canada with a new title issued before they will issue me an
Arizona title. You will have to deal with that on your end.
2. I asked you very detailed specific questions about the car before I
bought it.
A. I Asked if everything worked to which you replied all but the radio.
I was delayed in picking up the car until Saturday evening at 9:00. When I
opened the storage unit I found the car with the hood opened and the battery
cable disconnected. I wanted to check all of the fluids before starting the
car and driving it but it was dark so I decided to drive to a gas station
with light to do so. When I got to the gas station I found there was no hood
release cable to open the hood again.
B. I thought I could use the lug wrench to reach the hood latch from
under the car only to find that there was none. You told me the car had the
original jack. A jack includes a jack handle to remove the lug nuts and jack
the car up.
C. I specifically asked after asking if everything worked about the
dash lights and tach as these are expensive thing to consider on a 1966
Charger purchase and you said they worked, they don't.
D. I asked the condition of the engine and if it burned any oil or
smoked and you said no. It burned 6 quarts of oil on the 1650 mile trip--275
miles per quart.
E. When I asked about the lights, brakes etc. you said the cars in
Canada have to pass a safety inspection and that it had a current one and
all these items worked. The brake lights don't.
F. I asked about the power windows and you said they all worked and that
you had recently repaired one of the rear ones. The passenger side rear
window does not go down with the rear switch. It does with the master
drivers control and goes up with the rear switch but not down.
I searched all over the US and Canada for a good quality driver 1966 Charger
and reviewed them all before committing to buy your car prior to sending you
the money. In fact, before I sent you the money another owner contacted me
with an offer to sell his like condition car that I actually preferred his
color over yours but I told him I had already given my word to purchase your
and being a man of my word would not back out of the deal. I did everything
I said I would do based on your word about the car. Of course I am less than
pleased about this.
In addition to correcting the title I ask that you at least pay for the
repair of the dash lights and tach, the other items I will eat.
This requires your immediate attention and response.
Sincerely,
Darryl Dayton
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