New Hemi for the 65 Plymouth

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  1. AndersonTommy

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    Its ok.
    I've been doing this alot longer than you.
    I've been doing bracket racing for 45 years.
    It was time for me to change it up.
    Even index racing doesnt do it for me but I'm going to try 8.50 index racing and see if I like it.

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      Last coat of clearcoat when on today. I struck when the iron was hot.
      Last day before the cold comes in.
      Just some wet sanding on the trunk and I'm golden. Some trim assembling and new door handles going on.
      Cant believe how nice it came out.

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        Ok!
         
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          I like the Index stuff cause it's challenging. You have to tune for the track, the weather, and the stripe to hit the number. Not to mention cut a light. Heads up is a money game. With enough dollars you can buy your way close to the top. Then you have a chance. I don't have enough dollars to be successful. But I'm open to sponsors. Bring that thing over and I'll run it in All Motor in NMCA. How ever to win, need to go 7.70's.
          Doug
           
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            Yes I've seen this video before. Some of the fastest cars in the country.
             
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              Well with all your wins the last few years someone should be sponsoring you
              I will never be in the 7s.
              I just want 8.30s.
              At this time in my life just want to do my own thing and have fun.
               
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                Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't Pro Stock cars in the late 70s/early 80s running 7.XX ?
                 
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                Agreed. He stuck with it all the way through and did a good job! Determined bugger, that's for sure.
                 
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                  I got a set of QA1's - that are much the same as Vikings - that I wish I never would have bought.
                   
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                    The Calvert single adjustable rears will adjust for more rebound stiffness than the QA1's can.
                     
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                      Sorry Tommy, but this info malex posted is very important to me.
                      malex, are you saying that the Calvert single adjustable rear shocks because of:
                      are the best choice for my application?
                      malex, I'm sending you a PM (so as to not hijack)
                       
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                      Well, when I was on split mono's and cal tracs, and once I got some good power going, my QA1's would not hold the rear end from separating. It was a bloody nightmare. Rebound tight at 18 still would have full separation. Revalving was needed. I didn't do that, I went with the same ladder bar set up as on Tom's 65 as per his advise. I never looked back. Now the reason I made the statement on the Calvert shocks is that my buddy pits right beside me, also a 64, same HP and TQ. same split mono's and cal tracs, same weight. His calvert single adjustable shocks do a better job of controlling the separation than my QA1's did, that's for sure. Tomcat's statement about them being ok for a car in the 1.40's is pretty accurate I would say. Also, DVW is a master at suspension and helped me lots, just saying. :).
                       
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                        malex-PM sent
                        @dvw I'm not in the same wheel lifting category y'all are, but I think I will eventually at least lift em up a bit.
                        I'd prefer to only buy the rear suspension parts once, and that's happening in the next 2 weeks. PM me if you wish.
                        Thanks
                         
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                          Right now my 1011 HP seems kinda weak....lol

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                            Tsk..Tsk.."Mike the piker"... LOL J/K
                            Your car is AWESOME Mike Gaines, and SO ARE YOU!
                             
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                            If you got a spare 572 laying around with about 750 hp, think of me Mike!
                             
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                              Biomed.
                              If I were you I'd get Strange double adjustables.
                              Not much more money than those Vikings.
                              Not sure what rear suspension you're going with but I will have a set for sale very soon. They are almost new.

                              Strange double adjustables work.
                              1.19 60 foots consistently and 1.25 on the back tires.
                               
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                                I really like this picture.
                                I went with a solid throttle rod with a custom QuarterMax gas pedal.
                                With the carb spacing, I couldn't get my cable length geometry correct.

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                                  The harder you hit the tire, the more shock control you need. More torque to the tire hits it harder. Along with power more gear ratio, converter, spring rate, high/rearward center of gravity, or suspension geometry all add hit. Shocks control the speed of suspension movement only, not travel. 60ft is not only a function of hook. Power players a huge roll. A 3500lb 400 hp car is never going to go 1.2x 60 ft. So with shocks it all comes down to having enough dampening to control the speed of suspension movement at a given hit at the tire. This is why cars with lower power/gear/converter flash can get away with less dampening. Weve dead hooked mid 10 second cars on S/S springs and either Racho or Calvert shocks. On the other side of the coin my front Afcos have been revalved to stiffen them 50%. The rear has a pair of stock valved 20 year old Konis. Will my car run 1.1x 60ft? Nope, not enough power to weight. Mid 1.2x 60 ft. Yup
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                                    Thanks Doug.
                                    Between the Mancini factory style HP heavy duty leaf springs, the SS leafs, and the Calvert split mono leaf springs, since I am definitely installing Assassin traction bars at the same time, I think the Calvert split mono leaf springs and Viking double adjustable shocks is the route I'm going, unless you think that is the wrong leaf springs and shocks?
                                     
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