Worthwhile 69 runner project?

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    ’69 runner, VitC (k2) code car, E63 motor code (383 4-bbl), auto with AC and some other fun options...

    Major project, lots of rust, car isn’t assembled for the most part, motor is out but “original” motor and trans come with it.

    But I can get it under 4k.

    Should I? I expect I’d end up in it for 15-20k after rust and paint.
     
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    My biggest part of rust concerns... how easy is it to get replacement metal for these kinds of spot?

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    I'd like to see more pictures of the other rust areas, but if the frame is good, I'd jump on it personally. I think that window area rust is relatively common & maybe you can check amd/Sherman/Goodmark for repair panels. To me, having the original engine is a plus & A/C is a very nice option for a cruiser in Texas. Rust on frame...no Bueno.....rust on body, trunk floor, quarter...no biggie. It almost looks like a vinyl roof car, right?
     
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    I THINK the tag decodes to a white vinyl roof, but ALSO decodes as a “spring special w/o vinyl”.... so I dunno, ha.

    If I bought this car, it’d be a couple years worth of project, and ideally an investment, not a hobby/moneysink.

    Am i stupid? I have a LOT of suitable spares for it sitting in my driveway/garage, and wouldn’t pay a dime in labor to anyone but a painter or machinist...
     
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    Check out under the car before you hand over any money
     
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      03C8CF97-9732-43B6-BBB7-BC42617613F4.jpeg E664A415-A1F4-4A90-8546-ED3F1F8B8925.jpeg D9009D53-D9FF-49A0-A8C5-873B5ABC462A.jpeg All of those panels can be replaced. AMD has full 1/4’s the Dutchman panel and roof skin. Just remember there’s a good chance that some of the inner structure will probably need work too. That being said, if you can do the metal work yourself and aren’t afraid of putting in some hours, I’d go for it. Here’s a few before and after shots of my project. No way would I have bought it if I wasn’t doing my own body work though
       
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        Wow! Great looking car, that is a accomplishment to be proud of
         
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          Looks sick Crider!!

          I’d for sure be doing my own weld work on things like floors and trunk. Likely would pay a shop to do the roof/quarter parts. I’d do all my own work with everything else (motor, interior, etc.)
           
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            Well..you can work the metal so that's a big plus. Soul searching time! I don't know you but I believe you know what's involved...and how these 'projects' can come to dominate your time/money etc. (I know, that's part of the fun, right?) I would say it's a good price for what you get if the frame is good, in a day when some cars(chargers!)in worse shape are going for 10K+...
             
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              I see other “desireable” cars in similar/worse shape for more all the time! I feel like it’s a deal on this one, but my key element is that I need it to be an investment. I gather that 99.8% of money spent on classic cars is for a hobby, not an investment... but I also feel pretty well that I could revive this car for less money into it than the value would be when done.

              Famous last words, I know.
               
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              Help me decode this tag!
              I get is 69 Ply B, (not certain its a true runner yet), in k2 orange, spring special, with 383-4 and 727, AC and radio(AM).

              Not sure what else it’s got goin, or interior color, or rear gears, or what.

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              I’m not a fender tag expert like some of the guys on here, but it has RM23 there at the bottom left. That should be a road runner hardtop.
               
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                Thanks Steve
                 
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                All I can say is good luck.....

                You have to be happy with the car and that is all that matters....
                 
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                If you want a project, go for it. As an investment, I'm pretty sure you will have more (probably much more) in it that it is worth. From your description and picture, I'm assuming it needs quarters, roof skin, Dutchman panel, floor pan and trunk pan. Good chance it also needs outer wheelhouses and trunk drop-offs and who knows what else. This would amount to several thousand in new sheetmetal costs. You mentioned you would probably have a body shop install the quarters and roof. I'm guessing you would also have them doing the filler work, priming and blocking and paint. There's several thousand more.
                 
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                  I agree, that there is indeed several thousands worth of bodyshop/paint involved in a revival of this thing... but NADA values it at 40-70k (avg to high), so if it’s indeed a numbers car with a desireable color/motor combo, I can’t imagine spending 35k on revival (putting me already at the “avg” value.)
                   
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                  for a investment
                  double HELL NO because you will be farming out the body work
                  many better places to put your money
                   
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                    text me later so I can remember to get my code book out and send you the codes that I don't have here from memory.
                    M21-drip rail mouldings
                    M31-belt mouldings
                    H51-ac (you know that already)
                    V21-Hood stripe
                    26-26" radiator
                    V6W-longitual white stripe
                    V1W-? white vinyl top
                    A14-? something is coming in my head about the spring special.
                    R11-2 watt AM radio

                    Not sure if that is a H2W for the interior if so,
                    H-High class
                    2-Vinyl benach
                    W-White guts

                    being a H9G car its not going to have the rear gears on that tag,not sure if any of the factories did.
                    not sure on the 428 , mine is C19 here and is the build date.
                     
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                      oh and nice car by the way. Nicer options then mine. would love and factory ac car. but wouldn't give up the 4 speed.
                       
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                        Just playing around with the MyMopar decoder. Hard to make out some of the codes, but here ya go:

                        RM23:
                        Plymouth Belvedere,Satellite
                        Medium, Road Runner
                        2 Door Hardtop
                        H96: 383 330HP OR 335HP 1-4BBL 8 CYL
                        1969
                        Newark, DE, USA
                        256513: Sequence number
                        E63: 383 cid 4 barrel V8 H.P. 335hp
                        D32: Heavy Duty Automatic Transmission
                        K2: Unknown Exterior Color
                        K2: Trim - Unknown, Vinyl Bench Seat, Unknown Color
                        H2R: Unknown Int. Door Frames
                        M1: Build Date: 1
                        383022: Order number
                        A14: Unknown Top Color
                        H51: Air Conditioning with Heater
                        M21: Roof drip rail moldings
                        M31: Belt Moldings
                        R11: Radio Solid State AM (2 Watts)
                        V1W: Unknown
                        M21: Roof drip rail moldings
                        V6W: Longitudinal Stripes, White
                        26: 26in Radiator
                        END: End of Sales Codes

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