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My Engine Swap Saga Continues...

Bruzilla

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As many of you know, I've been trying to get a 440 swapped into my 74 Roadrunner since March 2013, and to date it still hasn't been done. The work was supposed to be done by Pure Performance and Dents, a company here in Jacksonville run by a consummate bullshit artist named Mike Harris. The final straw came a few weeks ago when Mike contacted me and said he needed to buy a crossmember for the car, and I told him no way. I sent him all the information on the Schumacher mounts and told him to order them and he said he would.

I went by last Friday to get an update, and he told me he was still waiting on the mounts to come in. Sensing more bullshit, I called the Schumacher guys and asked them to verify that they had been ordered. On Monday they sent me an email stating they had no orders in my name, his name, the business name, or even the Jacksonville area. Pretty conclusive proof.

As I was leaving the shop on Friday, I saw a truck parked at the entrance to the industrial park with all kinds of signs accusing Harris of being a thief all over it. I stopped to check it out and met the owners who told me they had been ripped off by Harris as well, had won a lawsuit against him, and that Ken Amaro, the consumer protection guy for one of the Jacksonville news operations, had just been there doing a report. This is it here:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/story...07/30/we-want-him-in-criminal-court/30905985/

The car Amaro is standing next to at the start of the report is mine. One thing I learned from the guys who were there protesting is they all took civil action against Harris, and once a case is deemed a civil matter it can't become a criminal matter. They were wanting Harris arrested, but there's really nothing the cops can do because they all have civil cases. But now along comes me, who has not filed a civil action of any kind. :)

So here's what I've got now. First, I have a good case for theft over the disappearing 360 engine I wrote about a year or so ago. I also think I have a great case for Theft by Deception because he told me my 440 had been rebuilt and the 915 heads put on, and the engine was ready to install. When I get the engine back it's going straight to another shop to be checked to make sure it was in fact worked on, and if it still has 346 heads on it. If so then I can sell a judge on how he was hoping I wouldn't look under the valve covers and see he had ripped me off. Lastly, when I was there a few months ago and started talking about getting a refund, Mike told me "You can gorget about a refund. In fact I might put a (mechanics) lien on your car and sell it!" Of course, these liens are for doing work and not getting paid for it, not getting paid for work and not doing it, and misusing liens in this manner is a felony here in Florida. Best of all, I record every conversation and meeting I have with the guy, so I've got lots of evidence. :)

So today I'll be having the car towed back to my house and making arrangements to have the engine and trans taken to a new shop. What I'm looking at is either getting the $2,900 I've paid him back, or if he refuses I'll work with JSO to get him indicted, arrested, prosecuted, convicted, and then have a judge add $4,000 in restitution costs to his parole/probation arrangements. He may blow off paying civil judgements, but he can't blow off a restitution order or he goes back in the can. :)
 
Bru:Having been fed up with all the incompetent restoration and so-called machine and performance shops in our area I found a place in Daytona that now has our Bee for a full resto. PM me or call and I can give you more
e details.
 
The owner of the company my son works for is a long-time Mopar racer, mainly A bodies, but he's hooked me up with the mechanic who does the work on his cars so I'm having him do it. Thanks for the offer though. :)
 
That sucks. I had to take my car from the body shop that had it for 20 months. I'm not an attorney, from what I was told you have to prove criminal intent. It sounds like the guy is broke as well, collecting on a judgement sounds like it's going to be tough. At least you can move forward and get your car done.
 
Dude I live right by you . Forget having any shop touch your car. Let's just do it ourselves at your house in your garage. That's what mopar buddies are for.
 
Dude I live right by you . Forget having any shop touch your car. Let's just do it ourselves at your house in your garage. That's what mopar buddies are for.

And I bet right now Bru is stewing about you not coming out of the closet sooner to help him out.
 
That sucks. I had to take my car from the body shop that had it for 20 months. I'm not an attorney, from what I was told you have to prove criminal intent. It sounds like the guy is broke as well, collecting on a judgement sounds like it's going to be tough. At least you can move forward and get your car done.

There are two avenues to go, civil and criminal. If you go the civil route first, you can't go criminal. If you go criminal and fail you can go civil provided you can prove damages, which I can. He already has three judgements against him, and he's apparently ignoring them, so getting a fourth one would do nothing.

As for criminal intent, that's why I recorded every conversation I had with him. In August 2013, he called me and told me he needed $800 right away so he could group my engine with two others and send it to a machine shop for the rebuild. Grouping them together would lower the cost. I paid him the $800. In March 2015, he told me he was busy rebuilding the engine... which he claimed was being rebuilt by a machine shop in August 2013. That's proof of fraud, even more so if that engine hasn't been rebuilt at all. He also threatened me with an illegal lien, which was a clear effort to threaten me into not demanding a refund.

My view as a grandson and nephew of several lawyers is with this guy's track history of defrauding customers, and ignoring court orders, it's not going to take a lot of persuading to get the state's attorney to file charges. Then once the matter gets to court, I'm sure this SOB will claim he's never defrauded anyone. Right now, all the information from his other victims is inadmissible in my case (prior bad acts), but once he makes that claim then all those folks can be called to testify in order to refute his claims, and that will sink him.

That outcome would be great for everyone because in addition to a restitution order for me I'm sure the judge would also append orders to satisfy all the judgements against him, which would mean he likely wouldn't see a full paycheck for the rest of his life.

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And I bet right now Bru is stewing about you not coming out of the closet sooner to help him out.

Actually no. :) As I've written before, this car was part of a challenge between my wife and I to bring a dead Mopar back for less than half the price of an entry-level new car. One of the rules of that challenge was I could do any work to the car that an average joe with regular tools could do. Anything else had to be done by a professional. So I did things like the interior, electronics, etc., but paint and body I had to pay for. I also felt an average joe wouldn't have the ability to rebuild an engine, especially one with a bad crankshaft, so that's why I took it to the shop.

I'm also in discussions with a couple of Mopar magazines to write this whole project up as an article or series of articles dealing with the issues collectors face, so that's why I've been letting this go on for so long. I've gotten lots of documentation that was intended to support the article(s) but now it'll likely be used for a criminal action, which will make for even more interesting reading. :)
 
Still one is better off by doing the majority of the work themselves or more exactly...DIY. I have had workmanship done by what was supposed to be a reputable engine builder but sadly it reeked of the similar result you have had Bru. That is why I now only do my one builds and farm out only the machining and work that I cannot do myself. Much easier and the best part is one learns so much in doing it that way. Good luck with the course of action you propose on taking but I doubt that any really satisfying outcome will come about as a result of your litigation's...Just My 2 Cents...cr8crshr/Tuck
 
I really hope this works out for you, I've heard plenty of horror stories like this, what a shame that there are people like this in business.
 
Let me know if you get fed up with the shops and want to tackle it I'll help you out i have everything you need and have done it a million times. I didn't even live up here until last December so I doubt he is stewing about anything I just share his frustration and hate to see any mopar dude get taken for a ride
 
Sorry please don't take my statements the wrong way, I feel for you BUT;

Please don't take what I'm going to say wrong...
BUT; Sorry you have had to go thru this crap...
Like I said before trying to do stuff cheap or on the sly,
trying to save a few bucks, being a cheapskate
{not an accusation, history of it in some posts}
on stuff you could have easily done yourself or
doing some kind of trade {IIRC} that never panned out &
especially with shops that showed a history with your stuff being stolen IIRC...

Sometimes it's just best to cut bait & bail,
you've been dealing with this for far too long,
your far more patient than I'd even have been...
I'd have taken it after the SB engine & kid stealing debacle, over a year + ago,
I'd have turned it over to the authorities "then" & did it myself or found someone trustworthy...

I'm sorry, not really trying to be a prick, but you "kind of",
brought some of this on yourself, even if it's there fault...
I do feel for you, but most of this could have been avoided...

Heed the warnings your a smart guy, you should have known better,
should have seen all the signs, long time ago...
Again sorry but I tell as I see em'... Brutally honest...

____________________________________________________

Your better off away from that guy, far away & let the authorities deal with it now...
Lesson learned, if it sounds too good to be true 99.9% of the time it is...
Small claims {up-to $10k} or a mechanics/property lien maybe/possibly the only recourse,
especially if you owe him anything for labor {even if it BS, he has the car}
or even if he still owes you anything...
You can't get blood out of a turnip...

Doing stuff on the cheap {especially too cheap, borderline cheapskate stuff}
always bites me right in the arse, every damn freaken' time
& I refuse to do that anymore, seemingly never works out, for me anyway...

I actually do hope all works out for the best too...
 
Please don't take what I'm going to say wrong...
BUT; Sorry you have had to go thru this crap...
Like I said before trying to do stuff cheap or on the sly,
trying to save a few bucks, being a cheapskate
{not an accusation, history of it in some posts}
on stuff you could have easily done yourself or
doing some kind of trade {IIRC} that never panned out &
especially with shops that showed a history with your stuff being stolen IIRC...

Sometimes it's just best to cut bait & bail,
you've been dealing with this for far too long,
your far more patient than I'd even have been...
I'd have taken it after the SB engine & kid stealing debacle, over a year + ago,
I'd have turned it over to the authorities "then" & did it myself or found someone trustworthy...

I'm sorry, not really trying to be a prick, but you "kind of",
brought some of this on yourself, even if it's there fault...
I do feel for you, but most of this could have been avoided...

Heed the warnings your a smart guy, you should have known better,
should have seen all the signs, long time ago...
Again sorry but I tell as I see em'... Brutally honest...

____________________________________________________

Your better off away from that guy, far away & let the authorities deal with it now...
Lesson learned, if it sounds too good to be true 99.9% of the time it is...
Small claims {up-to $10k} or a mechanics/property lien maybe/possibly the only recourse,
especially if you owe him anything for labor {even if it BS, he has the car}
or even if he still owes you anything...
You can't get blood out of a turnip...

Doing stuff on the cheap {especially too cheap, borderline cheapskate stuff}
always bites me right in the arse, every damn freaken' time
& I refuse to do that anymore, seemingly never works out, for me anyway...

I actually do hope all works out for the best too...

Well, like I said, this has been a challenge car all along, not a buy one just to own one car. Everything I've done has been documented and for a purpose. And I must say that just building another car would have been pretty damn boring. I've done that enough times in the past 30-40 years. :) The challenge here was to get the right car at the right price and find ways to do it, and I can't cheat the challenge. Who do you think I am? Tom Brady? And for the record, this wasn't being done on the cheap. $2,800 for fixing a crankshaft, swapping an engine, adding new heads, and fixing a trans problem is about a fair price. I would also point out that my challenge also yielded a paint and body job for $2,300 in 30 days that should have cost me about $7,000 and months of time had I gone your way. :)

Okay, the beeper is now home again, minus the engine and transmission. I'm inventorying all the parts and generating a list of MIAs to give to the shop owner on Monday. While I was waiting for the tow truck to show up, one of the other guys who got scammed came by and told me we have a meeting with the Assistant States Attorney for Consumer Crimes next week and I'll be attending that meeting with all my documentation. Looks like I'll be sending this guy off to jail. :)

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That's why I said learn & do it yourself,
there's nobody to blame that way but yourself...
It'd have save $$$ too, maybe except engine machine issues etc.,
that is what it is...

Like I said I'm sorry for you, that you had to go thru this too,
I hope you succeed in putting that {prick} crook in the hoosegow too...

good luck
 
Again Bud, the rules of the challenge are I am not allowed to do any work on the car that an average guy with garage tools could do. Any fool can open their wallet and get this done at a shop, or spend a ton of money on new parts and tools, but the idea behind this car was to show younger guys that they can still get into a nice car the way we did it back in the day.

Most of us didn't have lots of money. We relied on rummaging through junkyards, negotiating with people, horse trading, redneck engineering, and a lot of begging to get our cars on the road. Way too many guys are telling kids today "You want a car like mine? Well, you're gonna need LOTS of money, and years of time, and blah, blah, blah" and this project was about showing how that is bullshit. :) It's all about the learning, and now I'll be writing about how to deal with a deadbeat vendor.
 
Good luck with him getting jail-time. Look at the criminal-**** that's walking our streets. Some people really suck, and they used to get their just desserts. Now they get to live life, and make people wait to be repaid their due. The whole judicial system is made up of lawyers....nuff said.
 
Still one is better off by doing the majority of the work themselves or more exactly...DIY. I have had workmanship done by what was supposed to be a reputable engine builder but sadly it reeked of the similar result you have had Bru. That is why I now only do my one builds and farm out only the machining and work that I cannot do myself. Much easier and the best part is one learns so much in doing it that way. Good luck with the course of action you propose on taking but I doubt that any really satisfying outcome will come about as a result of your litigation's...Just My 2 Cents...cr8crshr/Tuck

Amen to that brother....
 
I took a demand letter and an inventory of all the parts that were not with the car over to the shop yesterday and gave it to the owner. I asked to see my engine, the one that he had told me he was going to try to install last week, and he told me its at the machine shop and will be back Friday.

For those who are new to this saga, he called me in Sep 2013 and told me I needed to give him $800 by the following Tuesday as he was going to send my engine along with two others to the machine shop, and he would get a discount for doing three engines at the same time and my cost would be less. Then in March of this year he tells me he's in the process of rebuilding my engine. Then in April he tells me he's still working on rebuilding the engine... that was supposedly rebuilt in Aug 2013.

I sent him a text last Monday telling him the engine and trans are going straight from his shop to another shop, and I was going to have the new guys verify the work he said had been done to them had in fact been done, and if it wasn't he would be facing a fraud charge. Last Wednesday I went to his shop and the sign on the door said "Out Today. At Machine Shop". I suspected he had rushed my engine over there to get the work done, and it looks like I was right. :)
 
Dude I live right by you . Forget having any shop touch your car. Let's just do it ourselves at your house in your garage. That's what mopar buddies are for.

That is an awesome offer, if its just a matter of popping a 440 in the car, get er' done, I send out machine work and engine building, but the bull work that I can do- I do.. Good for you for offering, I have a couple lifts and a big box of tools (ok, 3 boxes), welders, compressors, plasma cutters etc..

I have helped a lot of local guys get stuff done, I met a guy on a jeep run about a month ago, he loved my jeep and said he had all the parts to lift his BUT was waiting to save up the money to get it installed since the cheapest price he got was $1400 to do the work. He seemed like a good kid we talked for bit, he admitted he hadn't turned many wrenches in his life, so I asked him if he would be interested in doing it himself if I gave him a hand. He was ecstatic about the idea, I took his number and he told me to call him anytime, he worked 3rd shift so was free all day. I texted him that night and said if he wanted to be at my house when he got out of work the next day we could get it done...

He was there, right out of work, said he tried to sneak a nap but couldnt sleep because he was too excited, it took us about 5 hours to do the lift kit, weld in c supports, and while we were there I noticed he NEEDED brakes so I let him take my truck to napa and pick up pads and rotors, he came back with oil too, lol. After we were done he was SO happy, my 16 year old son helped us the entire time and when we were done we went to a near by trail, my son rode with him and we had a blast.
About a week after I was on the phone with my wife who was home and she said "the guys are almost done in the driveway" I was like "what guys?" it turned out he borrowed his uncles seal coating rig and him and a few of his buddies seal coated my driveway for free!!!

Anyway, back on the subject- it sucks to OP had to go through this, my inlaws live in Fl and we have a condo outside of Sarasota, they always have problems with contractors screwing people, after any type of hurricane there are always news alerts and warnings not to give people money to do repairs, and check licensing, etc. I think it has A LOT to do with the fact that there are a lot of older people in florida, and scum bags take advantage of the weaker people. Look at the news footage of this guy, women, older men, no young guys in there. There is a reason for that, I remember we were on vacation and there was a "pick pocket" going around the hotel, when I looked at all the victims lined up talking to the authorities they were all either old men or women, scum feeds on the "weak".

We had a local landscaper that screwed a ton of people around here, he did work for me and my brother, he didn't screw us, he did a good job and on time. Out of the couple dozen people he did work for he only screwed the women and elderly, they are predators and prey on what they think are the weak... Its sad and this guy should be in jail where he will be the weak...

If I was going through this, of course I would go through the proper channels, but when that did not look to be working or giving satisfaction, I would end up denting his skull, simple assault can be expunged (I have had 3 taken off my record,}, when I was reading that he told you to your face he would sell your car, I know for a fact I wouldn't have been able to control my self, but these scum bags know, an older gentleman, obviously smarter than a younger jerk like me, where I would be demanding results as they were promised the older guy or women will be more patient and except the BS excuses as they are fed to them.

This guy knows that he will go to court and get a judgement against him, and never have to pay it, in the rare case he has to go to criminal court he will get a public defender for free and even if found guilty will never spend a night behind bars, so there is nothing keeping him honest, where if I walk in and he knows that if he pushes me around I am going to push back, he will either 1 not take the work or 2 do what he says.


ANYWAY, good luck with everything, seems you are back on your way to getting your car on track, I hope everything comes together nice and fast for you now...
 
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