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A Little 55 MPH Speed Limit History Lesson

I am, most aren't
It is interesting when the season is changing and the ground is building its frost (where I am). Yep, come about December and it’s snowing out and so far so good; but the pavement is slowly getting colder. And some refuse to find a clue driving like it’s June. Kind of the reverse come spring when the pavement remains colder than the air temp and some think it’s only ‘wet’. Bout 10 years ago in my Dakota driving up north for biz, driving further north, things sure looked like I should drop my speed. As I got on a long bridge a semi was passing me. Well oly chit, that bridge was iced…as the semi passed he was blowing me out of my lane. I just let off the gas figuring pulling the wheel to stay in my lane could be a quick spin out, hoping he’d get by me. Scary chit; by the time I got off the bridge I was in the E-lane and gently steered back in the lane. Many close calls over the years driving for biz in **** weather much as I did. Now reeetired, won’t miss it!
 
Places like the state of Oregon are stuck in the 70s with their stupid speed limits. Loafing along at 55 when there is NOTHING around you but grass and desperation is a painful experience.
 
Places like the state of Oregon are stuck in the 70s with their stupid speed limits. Loafing along at 55 when there is NOTHING around you but grass and desperation is a painful experience.
Oregon.. There the good thing is "Social workers" can't ticket you for speeding!!
 
Oregon.. There the good thing is "Social workers" can't ticket you for speeding!!

I was pulled over on I-5 in Oregon for doing 58 , during the 55 mph boondoggle.... Cop really wanted to write me up, but I think he new it would not stick.....
 
It started out with 55 saves gas.. When that turned out to be a government FAKE NEWS story, it was changed to " 55 saves lives"... Remember....... Sounds alot of what our government tells us today.... I remember it well.....
 
Wow, didn't think it was that long ago.
But now I remember, we were traveling in our family trucktster 68 Monoco wagon.
My dad was going over 55, probably about 65-70. My mom was concerned he would get a ticket, and he told her " I'll just tell the cop there's a notch in the gas pedal."
That had to be around 74-75.
Wow, my family had a '68 Monaco wagon as well when we were kids.
Pop traded it in for a new '73 VW bus because of the "gas crisis". I remember it well.
I'd kill to find that wagon now....
 
Speed limits have always been regarded by myself as "serving suggestions"...
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...with the expected results over the years of the constables. :lol:
 
Places like the state of Oregon are stuck in the 70s with their stupid speed limits. Loafing along at 55 when there is NOTHING around you but grass and desperation is a painful experience.


However there's cops hiding behind every bridge/overpass
 
Here in SoCal you're only driving 55 if you're getting off the freeway on the offramp. Even then you'll get tailgated by 10 cars
 
Remember Montana's daytime speed limit was "reasonable and prudent"?
 
Places like the state of Oregon are stuck in the 70s with their stupid speed limits. Loafing along at 55 when there is NOTHING around you but grass and desperation is a painful experience.
I haven't been to Oregon for awhile, but it looks like they recently reset some highway speed limits (last year).

From their Highway Engineering site:

With the exception of temporary construction or emergency speed zones orders, all speed zones on interstate highways in Oregon (I-5, I-82, I-84, I-105, I-205 and I-405) are set by statute (ORS 811.111) at 65 or 70 mph for passenger cars, unless otherwise directed by OAR 734-020-0011.
 
Speed limits in the earlier part of the 20th century had been determined at the time of the
opening of a new road - by officials observing what speeds the drivers were using when
driving the new roads, then striking an average.
No kidding - talk about "reasonable and prudent"? They actually based speed limits on what
speed the average drivers felt comfortable actually driving on the roads at!

With the post-war rapid development of modern cars and their ability to attain higher and higher
speeds, that all changed of course. In fact, speed limits could actually have been claimed to be
for "safety's sake" then, an effort to lower the frightening highway casualty rates caused by faster
cars on modern highways, not to mention equipment component failures, tire blowouts, all sorts
of things related.

But when the various law enforcement agencies at state and local levels began being utilized as
sources of revenue generation, most practical applications of determining speed limits went out
the window, replaced by politically-determined ones.
To this day, most speed limits you'll encounter during a typical day are not actually engineer design-
determined ones, but rather ones set by governmental agencies (or just as often, elected bodies).
Sole purpose? Revenue.

I learned all this stuff in the years I worked for a civil engineering firm in the DC area.
I routinely applied state and local design criteria when laying out new roads and such and saw the
decades of data used to determine the limits of the physical dimensions of things...
and that data always included references that said standards were derived from, which I spent a
lot of time reading and researching.
Conclusion?
Safety has diddly squat to do with determining speed limits. Design and engineering doesn't have
much influence on them either.
What does? Revenue and politics.

Hence, why speed limits have always been "serving suggestions" to me.
 
I see the speed limit number as a MINIMUM speed to drive at, not the maximum speed.
 
Trucks and vehicles towing have a 55 limit, cars and pickups are 65 for the most part.
 
try over here. the enter length of Newcastle NSW,30 km /18.64 mph
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Trucks and vehicles towing have a 55 limit, cars and pickups are 65 for the most part.
That is what Nixon proposed (50 for cars, 55 for trucks & buses) but the California trucking association opposed the split limit as unsafe.
 
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