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Recent content by Steve Garner

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    Leaf spring dimensions

    A picture to augment my thousand words. The arrows show which way the axle would move through their arcs in the different designs.
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    Leaf spring dimensions

    I would disagree with the use of the term camber in this situation. Camber is a measurement of the wheel off perpendicular to the ground, by definition. Doesn't apply here and not what the dictionary definition refers to. Simply serves to confuse in this discussion and is inconsistent with the...
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    Leaf spring dimensions

    I would quit too if I was you. Your author doesn't know the english language and if you think using that word to describe an arc in a spring in the context of discussion of automotive suspension, well, you guys are a good fit. And if you can't figure out what the flattening of the spring does...
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    Leaf spring dimensions

    These guys know a thing or two about the english language. You will note how it does not say the curvature of anything with an arc, but rather specifically, airfoil, roadway or horizontal surface. At least you're picking up a few things here on our adventure.
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    Leaf spring dimensions

    No, that's a leaf spring, not an airfoil. Camber is not universally used for anything with an arc. Specifically says airfoil. Like I said, don't be sorry for me.
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    Leaf spring dimensions

    You're still not getting it. The eye doesn't move, the spring gets effectively longer when you take the ARC out of it. Why is that not taken into calculation of the movement of the axle as it travels through its very short arc.
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    Leaf spring dimensions

    Sorry, I misread your definition. Using camber to describe the arc of a spring in the context of a discussion about automotive suspension is pure bs, or intended to boggle the I'll informed. Either way, it's evidence of poor writing.
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    Leaf spring dimensions

    Camber, when used in the context of suspension, is described by Oxford as the sideways inclination of the the front wheels of an automobile. Also the curvature of a section of an airfoil. Nowhere is it defined as a synonym for the arc a radius travels through. I'll stick with the author not...
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    Leaf spring dimensions

    Ask them to explain camber on the rear spring when you're chatting. Or perhaps you could take a minute now to explain it. As a hard-core disciple I'm sure you must have followed up on that and the spring flattening detail. No need to feel sorry about how I feel. I don't believe everything I...
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    Leaf spring dimensions

    Do you actually believe the engineers write this stuff?
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    Leaf spring dimensions

    On re-reading your article, change that from a grain of salt to a huge brick of salt. The writer goes on to talk about camber and reserve camber on jounce. What the hell is this guy talking about? Does he even know what camber is? Definately an arm chair wanne be engineer. With all due...
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    Leaf spring dimensions

    The writeup does not appear to have been written by an engineer and does not discuss the straightening of the spring, only the travel through the arc. Grain of salt with this one. Here's a well written article (of many out there) about the Corvette rear that many would take as documented...
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    Leaf spring dimensions

    Sometimes things get repeated so often on the internet they become treated as fact. A lot of misinformation going around because of that. Most of what I do is with C2 Corvettes. Here's a great example of what I'm referring to as far as internet "documented" In the two pics below look at the...
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    Leaf spring dimensions

    Maybe I'm not understanding you, or you understanding me. The front eye is fixed. Correct. Your explanation says that spring pivoting on front eye moves the centre bolt in an arc with the centre bolt moving forward horizontally as it travels in this arc pivoting on the eye. I am adding that...
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    Leaf spring dimensions

    I've held a Journeyman's Cert since 1978 and had never heard that either. The explanation fails to take into account the straightening of the spring as it deflects. So while moving up in it's arc pivoting on the front eye brings the axle forward, straightening of the spring arc increases the...
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