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I emailed Borgeson about it. They told me my old pump was designed with the smaller pulley and their pump is designed with the larger puller. They basically told me the two pumps have different needs.
The Borgeson box likes more pressure than the OE box. In most cases, zero or 1 shim will remain in the relief valve on a Saginaw pump. The feel is built into the box. Unlike the ancient article of MA showing how to make the OE box harder to turn by changing the relief pressure.
so what is the shim for that people mention installing at the PS pump for use with the Borgeson box? Above it says to reduce line pressure, correct? Is this the same kind of washer shim many have done for years with the Saginaw pumps and stock boxes for increased steering feel? With the...
Knowing what I know now, if Borgeson wasn't available, I'd do a FF Stage 1 or the lowest upgrade from stock from Steer and Gear AND upgrade my steering wheel from the large stock diameter to a 15" or 14" and call it a day.
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Installed a Borgeson from Bergman Auto craft (Peter) in my friend’s Charger, it was the best upgrade to his car. I bought one for my Charger, getting ready to install it any day now.
Pretty cool project. If you were one of the guys getting the hissing sound from a Borgeson box I’d say that rag joint would completely eliminate it. I’m pretty lucky that I find the stock location of the steering wheel is about perfect for me but my 8 way, dual lumbar power seats definitely...
...there be an adjustment screw if there were no need for it?
I may have it wrong but I thought that when you buy from Bergman, the boxes are tested. You can get the Borgeson from other vendors but they won't have the Bergman hybrid coupler....
...and probably no hydraulic adapter fittings.
If I were offered a free rebuilt OEM box or pay for a Borgeson, the decision would depend on my wallet and my goals for the car.
For a car that I want excellent control and handling, Borgeson wins.
If the car is just a casual cruiser, I'd pick the original design and just live with the flaws...
Fast ratio on the stock Mopar box is realized from longer Pittman and idler arms. Fast ratio box would be the Borgeson unit. As stated above, getting one from BAC[ Peter Bergman] is the best place to get it. You'll get ALL OF THE NEEDED COMPONENTS when you buy it from him. Putting the Borgeson...
...the red car since just after I first swapped in a 440 24 years ago. Hot California sun, aggressive driving and wide tires do conspire to heat up the fluid.
I did a Borgeson swap 2 years ago on a Plymouth and added an inline cooler that I pulled from a minivan in a junkyard. Low cost and...
Rad, can you show how you mounted your cooler? I saw Derale has a 4 row cooler that's like $45.. but no mount on it. I have only driven my car a few times with the borgeson setup but man that pump gets hot.... I spend all my time above 2600-3000 though
I think it's another manufacturer as well. It looks nothing like the one I posted which is the box that' in my 64. I have np idea who manufactured RWW's gearbox or how and if it can be fine tuned.
If you already bought the borgeson box, which it sounds like you have. Bergman Auto Craft are the makers of this and sponsors on this site. Peter Bergman can help, contact him. @BergmanAutoCraft
The Doug's fit great on my 72 charger with the 440 with the exception of steering box clearance. It had the original box and the headers were right on it. I changed the box to a borgeson box and now have ample clearance