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Pretty cool project. If you were one of the guys getting the hissing sound from a Borgeson box I’d say that rag joint would completely eliminate it. I’m pretty lucky that I find the stock location of the steering wheel is about perfect for me but my 8 way, dual lumbar power seats definitely...
...there be an adjustment screw if there were no need for it?
I may have it wrong but I thought that when you buy from Bergman, the boxes are tested. You can get the Borgeson from other vendors but they won't have the Bergman hybrid coupler....
...and probably no hydraulic adapter fittings.
If I were offered a free rebuilt OEM box or pay for a Borgeson, the decision would depend on my wallet and my goals for the car.
For a car that I want excellent control and handling, Borgeson wins.
If the car is just a casual cruiser, I'd pick the original design and just live with the flaws...
Fast ratio on the stock Mopar box is realized from longer Pittman and idler arms. Fast ratio box would be the Borgeson unit. As stated above, getting one from BAC[ Peter Bergman] is the best place to get it. You'll get ALL OF THE NEEDED COMPONENTS when you buy it from him. Putting the Borgeson...
...the red car since just after I first swapped in a 440 24 years ago. Hot California sun, aggressive driving and wide tires do conspire to heat up the fluid.
I did a Borgeson swap 2 years ago on a Plymouth and added an inline cooler that I pulled from a minivan in a junkyard. Low cost and...
Rad, can you show how you mounted your cooler? I saw Derale has a 4 row cooler that's like $45.. but no mount on it. I have only driven my car a few times with the borgeson setup but man that pump gets hot.... I spend all my time above 2600-3000 though
...a little, not a big thing but would rather have it solid..
I was curious if the factory used bolts with shoulders or just threads all the way up? I could see shoulder bolts taking up the slack in the holes on the box, mine are just threads..
Don't think it matters but it's a borgeson unit..
Possible.. mine aren't the original bolts, just ones that fit. i think i can get under there tomorrow with a flashlight and see inside the mount if any are bottoming out, didn't think of that
I think it's another manufacturer as well. It looks nothing like the one I posted which is the box that' in my 64. I have np idea who manufactured RWW's gearbox or how and if it can be fine tuned.
If you already bought the borgeson box, which it sounds like you have. Bergman Auto Craft are the makers of this and sponsors on this site. Peter Bergman can help, contact him. @BergmanAutoCraft
The Doug's fit great on my 72 charger with the 440 with the exception of steering box clearance. It had the original box and the headers were right on it. I changed the box to a borgeson box and now have ample clearance
How long ago did you purchase the box? Is the hissing sound coming from the Borgeson box or from the pump?
How long ago did you purchase the box? Is the hissing sound coming from the Borgeson box or from the pump?
If this is a fast ratio at a cheap price, I hope it is also durable.
The Borgeson is a standard 3 1/2 turns but is still considered a “Fast Ratio” of 14 to 1.
If the Lares unit is a full turn tighter, that could be around 11.75 to 12 to 1.
I had the longer Fast Ratio Pitman and idler on my...
on my install i find the Borgeson coupler is more forgiving with the slight angle and I use lucas power steering fluid and a derale cooler with no problems, 4 years since install.