charliesharp
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what is the best way to remove the winshield including the chrome trim without damage or breaking. I need to replace the the cracked windshield in my 62 savoy with the good one that is in the donor/parts car
62 winshield removal best practice
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charliesharp
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I called the local quality glass and they said $300 to do it with no guarantee that it won't break
b-body-bob
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I'm not familiar with 62's, does the chrome trim come off like newer models do? If so you're not going to break the glass removing that just get the right arrow-shaped tool and have at it.
For the gasket I would consider cutting the gasket off the good windshield, and unzipping the one on the broken one and kicking the glass out. That way you end up with one sure good gasket and one sure good windshield.
For the gasket I would consider cutting the gasket off the good windshield, and unzipping the one on the broken one and kicking the glass out. That way you end up with one sure good gasket and one sure good windshield.
chignikred
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62 windshields are not that difficult to remove. I see no reason to give up and cut a gasket unless it is very dried out and hard, and I might add, I've only run into a few like that. First things first, you must remove the ss trim. This requires knowledge of how the clip looks like to know what you are releasing with the tool. Usually these are all rusted anyhow, and removal is pretty easy.
The gasket will need to have the locking flap pried out of its groove. Use a flat screw driver to start and run a blunt tool, such as the one pictured, to disingage flap from groove.
Next run the same blunt edge around the edge of gasket inside and outside of glass to loosen the gum or bonding that has occured over the years. Pry back the outside flap, since the glass needs to come out that dimension. Think childbirth here guys. Spray some soapy water or Windex (trademark registered) around glass edge.
Now comes time to call you buddy as two people helps greatly. Offer cold brewski's. ( I like Red Hook IPA). One needs to be inside of car and start pushing in upper corner, to work glass out. Meanwhile , the friend, needs to be pulling the gasket flap edges back, to give glass room to exit. Go to other side upper corner and start the same thing, as you need to do corner , middle , corner, back and forth to get gasket to give up its resistance. Once you get one corner to reach the edge of the gasket flap, you are pretty much home free.
Above all, do this on a warm sunny day where the sun warms up the gasket.
Gasket saved, Glass saved.
Do the cracked glass first to learn on.
62 windshields are not that difficult to remove. I see no reason to give up and cut a gasket unless it is very dried out and hard, and I might add, I've only run into a few like that. First things first, you must remove the ss trim. This requires knowledge of how the clip looks like to know what you are releasing with the tool. Usually these are all rusted anyhow, and removal is pretty easy.
The gasket will need to have the locking flap pried out of its groove. Use a flat screw driver to start and run a blunt tool, such as the one pictured, to disingage flap from groove.
Next run the same blunt edge around the edge of gasket inside and outside of glass to loosen the gum or bonding that has occured over the years. Pry back the outside flap, since the glass needs to come out that dimension. Think childbirth here guys. Spray some soapy water or Windex (trademark registered) around glass edge.
Now comes time to call you buddy as two people helps greatly. Offer cold brewski's. ( I like Red Hook IPA). One needs to be inside of car and start pushing in upper corner, to work glass out. Meanwhile , the friend, needs to be pulling the gasket flap edges back, to give glass room to exit. Go to other side upper corner and start the same thing, as you need to do corner , middle , corner, back and forth to get gasket to give up its resistance. Once you get one corner to reach the edge of the gasket flap, you are pretty much home free.
Above all, do this on a warm sunny day where the sun warms up the gasket.
Gasket saved, Glass saved.
Do the cracked glass first to learn on.
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99ss
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Dont cut the gasket !!
As I learned on my 70 and maybe a 62 is a lot easier but the OEM gasket fits best of all and the aftermarker ones are horrible. The choice in glass is also a big factor in fitment as well... but the one thing I learned from someone who installs them all the time is to save the OEM gasket if at all possible. Cheap glass is just that as well.. the OEM is very thick.. the cheap ones are thin and break easily
As I learned on my 70 and maybe a 62 is a lot easier but the OEM gasket fits best of all and the aftermarker ones are horrible. The choice in glass is also a big factor in fitment as well... but the one thing I learned from someone who installs them all the time is to save the OEM gasket if at all possible. Cheap glass is just that as well.. the OEM is very thick.. the cheap ones are thin and break easily
charliesharp
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I don't have any idea how the trim comes off
62phoenix
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A trick I was taught was to buy a bit of surgical wire, its a kind of plaited woren wire rope that is very thin. Get your buddy inside (or out) and after drilling a small hole thru the gum/cement that holds the windshield in place, threat thru the wire; grab an end each an kida 'saw you way along the edge very slowly and gently.
I have an old shop manual around here somewhere that states that the shields should not be hit with a rubber mallet. Use the base of your palm to give it some...
I have an old shop manual around here somewhere that states that the shields should not be hit with a rubber mallet. Use the base of your palm to give it some...
chignikred
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I see this thread revisited again. I have to comment that 62 gaskets DO NOT use a chaulk sort of gasket, so the above post is INCORRECT. Rear glass on a 68 Satellite 2 dr do use that sort of 'gasket' (ribbon chaulk) and the wire idea has merit there. Since this post was started asking about a 62, wrong info can mislead. In fact all windshield gaskets till 67 are the molded rubber style, and my comments apply.
Rick62
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I hired a local pro to do my '62 windshield. I furnished the glass. He charged $100. I had a new gasket but he recommended I not use it and told me if I wanted to use it he would charge an extra $50. He said the repop gaskets are junk.
62phoenix
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I know what you mean, BUT, many cars from that era have been had a new windshield; and the common practice has been to gum them in (at least here in Oz,)...so for the 3 '62's that I have helped people with, the above post has been CORRECT!
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Here we go, straight out of the '62 shop manual...chignikred
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You are still confusing using an added sealant / mastic, whatever to further seal an existing rubber formed gasket. Your old diagram clearly shows just that. This is NOT the same as a chaulk sort of system, like the 3M product, which was used in ( example 68 B bodies ). If you have ever cut a rear glass out of a Satellite, you would know what I am talking about. I have many times, and I have early B's, and early A's.
Words and definitions do have meaning, and great confusion has been added to this post by an incorrect ''help'' of how to remove the front glass. Anyone actually removing a 62 windshield will quickly figure this out, which is all part of the learning process. My post is a detailed how-to, from at least 15 62/3 windshields being removed, and not losing one.
Words and definitions do have meaning, and great confusion has been added to this post by an incorrect ''help'' of how to remove the front glass. Anyone actually removing a 62 windshield will quickly figure this out, which is all part of the learning process. My post is a detailed how-to, from at least 15 62/3 windshields being removed, and not losing one.
62phoenix
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No need to be so patronizing about it...I am quite aware that " words and definitions have meaning."
as I mentioned it was common practice here in oz, to add a chalk, especially onto vehicles which had the screen replaced. I was informed of this by an old chap who worked at the assembly plant in Melbourne, and was responsible for the numbering of the Australian assembled vehicles. When the time came to replace the gasket on the vehicle I owned he indicated that well as the formed gasket the shield had been chauled into place due to "da bloody rougha roadsa da gov'ment noa fixa".
I am not being sarcastic or racist, or anything. He was a lovely old Italian chap with limited English skills and I lived next door to him for many years.
how many of the windshields - out of the 15 you have done- were done in Australia?
Please try to be attentive to my entire posts before before posting a response in future.
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And just to keep you from blowing a fuse here...
In My original post where it says "drill a small hole through the gum/cement that holds the windshield in place"
please read
"Drill a small hole through the gasket AND any gum/cement that has been used to hold the windshield in place "
There you go, easy wasn't it?
Ozmopar
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I hear what yr saying matey, popped the windscreen on the '63 and it was glued in like you would not believe. The original gasket had big cut outs in the guts so the glue would join the screen to the body.
Where you located, just out of Darwin here but ran a panel beater resto shop for 33 years in Kalgoorlie.
62phoenix
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Yeah, I wonder if the oz rubber was from a different supplier; I noticed the cut outs - its as if they were for allowing the cement far more area to bond to the body. I never measured to gaps in the gasket but I'd say 60-65%?
Born and raised St Kilda, was in the west on the gas plants but now retired to Ballarat. All the best.
Born and raised St Kilda, was in the west on the gas plants but now retired to Ballarat. All the best.
I'm gonna have too agree with chignikred here. The OP is obviously from Indiana USA so the Aussie info relating to the seal removal info is defunct.....??
unless of course he imported a 4 dr Pheonix to the USA that is!
unless of course he imported a 4 dr Pheonix to the USA that is!
62phoenix
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A very valid point my fellow countryman....and thats why I made sure I put "and the common practice has been to gum them in (at least here in Oz,)..." just to ensure confusion was not the order of the day.
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