Check out this article, unbelievable!!!
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/dodge-announces-hellcat-beating-challenger-140148482.html
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/dodge-announces-hellcat-beating-challenger-140148482.html
Anyone heard about the new Hellcat killer the new Chally Demon?????
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Well, I did a search for this topic before posting, but I guess my search was not precise enough. I also did not post in General discussion because it talks about "general discussion and other non-automotive subjects". Anyhow, good to know it is out there getting discussed!
It's all good. You get more replies from more sources!
I see they were talking about bringing the Prowler back, for the collectors. Not my cup of tea, I'd like to see a V8 in one...
I see they were talking about bringing the Prowler back, for the collectors. Not my cup of tea, I'd like to see a V8 in one...
These things float around from time to time...I seem to remember some scuttlebutt that they were going to make a new cuda...not sure if that will make it to production..but heck I remember back in the late 90s/early 2000s a rumor going around that Chrysler was noodling the idea of an updated version of the hemi......
Would be difficult to have another totally different 2 door Sportscar platform. The Chally has done well but I think it wouldn't be prudent to try and bring an old gem on a new platform. Adding an option to their existing muscle car and using an old school name is less risky. (Which is what Im guessing the new demon will be)I would love to see another roadrunner or GTX but can't really imagine how to go about it. The GTX was the gentlemans musclecar back in the day. Heavily optioned and powerful. Well everything is heavily optioned nowadays and you can't (as of yet) find a more powerful car than a Chally Hell cat.
Sure you can...the HellCat is #9 on this list. But face it, nothing is more afforable than the Dodge/Chrysler offerings.
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/pioneers/eight-most-powerful-production-cars-sale#1
I don't consider mid engines or exotics to be in this category. Mainly just cars that we could realistically own. Vettes, Camaros, Challengers,Mustangs
69L48Z27
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I don't think it's a stretch today. 'Hellcat' and 'Demon', those are not too far apart in the PC world IMO. I think it's great martketing. FCA needs to be careful, how old is this platform now? 707hp is cool but there are pony cars now with less HP but much better performance in the twisties and straight line. The big HP numbers get everyone's attention for sure.
Are you kidding. Now it's cool to be evil.
Let's see. "Shameless". "Breaking Bad". Off the top of my head.
But back in the day wasn't it ironic that "Demon" was considered a poor choice by the same people that took Deviled Eggs to a church pick nick?
Regardless, I do think the logo and lettering on this new car needed more work.
It's sloppy. It looks like they didn't put much thought into them to me.
Poor graphics.
And the face is awkward and creepy.
But admittedly, it's hard to make a "Demon" look appealing.
So go for humor. Impish.
Hum? Where have I seen that before.
That was then.
This is now.
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This just in.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/...y-author-of-the-exorcist-dies-at-89.html?_r=0
I'm sure there will be a breakfast thread.
I could never listen to Tubular Bells in the same way.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/...y-author-of-the-exorcist-dies-at-89.html?_r=0
I'm sure there will be a breakfast thread.
I could never listen to Tubular Bells in the same way.
Bruzilla
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More HP is usually always nice, but I think Dodge is about to hit the same wall computer makers did in the 1990s. Back then, the boost from a 286 processor to a 486 yielded significant benefits and folks didn't mind paying $3,000-$4,000 to get those benefits. But before long the computer makers were touting performance increases that were significant from a design perspective, but didn't really yield benefits in how the systems were used, and they reached a point of diminishing return.
Dodge's problem is they are constantly dumping more power into a body design that is close to ten years old, and that is based on a model that only ever had one body design. There are a LOT of Challengers out there, and while a hundred or so more horsepower might be enough to get the interest of a few buyers, many of whom will be the same people Hellcats are marketed to, they aren't going to do much to motivate buyers en masse.
If I were the Mopar Czar, I would get the designers really, really, busy on designing me a 2G Challenger version of the 1971 'Cuda to replace the Challenger. That would renew the interest in the marketplace far better than some more HP in a dated design.
Dodge's problem is they are constantly dumping more power into a body design that is close to ten years old, and that is based on a model that only ever had one body design. There are a LOT of Challengers out there, and while a hundred or so more horsepower might be enough to get the interest of a few buyers, many of whom will be the same people Hellcats are marketed to, they aren't going to do much to motivate buyers en masse.
If I were the Mopar Czar, I would get the designers really, really, busy on designing me a 2G Challenger version of the 1971 'Cuda to replace the Challenger. That would renew the interest in the marketplace far better than some more HP in a dated design.
While I applaud the idea, I think it's mostly a marketing gimmick to stretch the current Challenger out a few more years. It was originally slated to be replaced in 2018 and they've pushed it back.. most likely due to budget constraints on Sergio's sweater fund or something.
The new model is alleged to be based on the Alfa Romeo Guilia and good luck getting a V8 in that if it comes to fruition.
The new model is alleged to be based on the Alfa Romeo Guilia and good luck getting a V8 in that if it comes to fruition.
If the Guilia platform is used, it won't be all bad news if a V8 won't fit. The sporty model, with the 505 hp. V6 and half a ton lighter than the Challenger is a sub 12 second car already. But I'd hope for a more classic American muscle look.
We've owned a couple late model Chargers (currently a '12 R/T) and I've got friends and relatives with late model Challengers. I like the modern day hemi engines just fine, too - I must, with 3 of 'em sitting around here at any given time.
That said, I wish all to heck Dodge would drop about a half a ton and about 20% physical size off the Challenger (the oft-rumored 'Cuda would be just fine) and totally modernize the platform.
Lord knows it's overdue.
One of the most fun cars I ever owned was a simple 5.0 Mustang back in '89 (traded my little Shelby turbo critter in on it). I beat living hell out of that car every day I owned it (250,000 miles on it when I sold it decades later - ZERO issues ever).
You could throw that little car into corners with abandon.
Not so much these modern Challengers - car is too tall, too heavy, too everything to really feel comfortable beating on, least with me.
That said, I wish all to heck Dodge would drop about a half a ton and about 20% physical size off the Challenger (the oft-rumored 'Cuda would be just fine) and totally modernize the platform.
Lord knows it's overdue.
One of the most fun cars I ever owned was a simple 5.0 Mustang back in '89 (traded my little Shelby turbo critter in on it). I beat living hell out of that car every day I owned it (250,000 miles on it when I sold it decades later - ZERO issues ever).
You could throw that little car into corners with abandon.
Not so much these modern Challengers - car is too tall, too heavy, too everything to really feel comfortable beating on, least with me.
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