Anyone work for Mopar at a corporate job? Trying to help a friend..

[1 Wild R/T]

Probably the most ridiculous request ever.... So a friend has a 69 Roadrunner he's trying to get licensed... California DMV has done their VIN verification, but in the course of that they did something I've never seen them do before, they checked for an emissions sticker & it was missing... Now they won't register the car...

In the check list to correct issues it states
"Customer can contact the manufacturer (not dealer) of the vehicle and ask if the vehicle complied with all applicable US Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS) and US Emissions and/or California Emissions Standards.

It goes on to state...
Must be on the manufacturers letter head
Must list the full vehicle VIN

I suspect this was a rule meant for modern vehicles with OBDI or OBDII type systems but some DMV workers that done like vintage cars are using it to prevent guys from getting old cars back on the road..

If you can help, or tell me who to contact, I would appreciate the help...

 

[Kern Dog]

There are no emission stickers on any of my classic cars and there has never been an issue. That DMV clerk is an idiot.

 

[eldubb440]

Grrrrrrrrr.....

 

[66 Sat]

Maybe get a print shop to make one up based on a real looking one?
I'm sure the knobhead at the DMV has no idea what it's meant to look like.

 

[F4R/T]

Engine family and idle spec decal on the driver side inner fender? That is about there is beside coolant and air cleaner service decal.

 

[Cheapsunglasses]

I thought emissions was only enforced on vehicles after 1974 in commifornia

 

[440 PHIXX]

At least you guys don’t have annual safety inspections. And try to get a title for a car you’ve owned for 38 years but bought with a bill of sale. Horrible state Pennsylvania is for hot rodders.

 

[F4R/T]

Not really, if you think when a car was ordered new it came with California emmisions . Including fuel evap system , timing could be different ,different carb ,exhaust pipes are 2” versus 2&1/4” no chrome tips were allowed. I’m sure there are a few more things.. special gas cap too.

 

[YY1]

1- Buy a repro sticker.

2- Go to a different DMV office.

 

[RR Fan Dan]

Moving from California would be easier.

 

[Armyvet25]

hahaha, californication or calicommienation, or cal......

 

[Runcharger]

Fargin ridiculous. I guess they figure he is going to daily commute a 10mpg, 69 r.r. polluting and wrecking the california atmosphere.

 

[Don Frelier]

@Nxcoupe might be able to do something to help

 

[The Rebel]

From the CA DMV website 1975 and older do not need a smog test.

 

[Roadhog51]

DMV clerk is an idiot, contact regional office so they can "educate" that idiot so no one else has that problem!

 

[fesser]

I agree with the others. Clerk is wrong as far as that decal being necessary. Might be a box on a form that he/she/they were looking at that they felt they couldn't check off. Instead of steering him to the current day Mopar people, who we already know have no records of cars after 67, I would steer him back to someone higher up at DMV. Requiring a decal saying what it came with on a car that is not required to have what it came with is just nonsense. There used to be a "smog referee" at CA DMV that would help get cars that were unsmoggable through the system. Not sure if that is still a thing.

 

[mopar jack]

performance graphics use to carry the emission stickers.
https://www.performancecargraphics....Emissions/Emissions_66-70_2899841_3512031.jpg

 

[YY1]

Not requiring an inspection is not the same thing as not requiring a decal.

Might be time to read the actual state statute.

Perhaps that "helpful" DMV employee could give you the statute number.

 

[ckessel]

Go to a different DMV or AAA.

 

[1 Wild R/T]

Okay, to answer the questions/comments I knew this would generate...
This didn't come from the clerk, two months ago the clerk gave him his plates, his registration, stickers... Everything accept the title... That has to come from Sacramento... Getting that was taking longer than expected so he called... They said he would be hearing from them soon....Three days later a packet arrived no title, documents saying he needed a Emissions Sticker & it had to come from the manufacturer....

We ordered a correct sticker from ECS, installed it & took the car for re-inspection... They refused to accept the sticker, they want a letter from the manufacturer... They want a receipt from the manufacturer on company letterhead for the emissions sticker and a receipt from an authorized dealer for installing the sticker.....

Absolutely insane...

And yes, in the past I've gone to different DMV's... Unfortunately this is in the stated computer, put there by a clown in Sacramento so every DMV is gonna have to satisfy it....