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Dipping

cairopd1069

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The body shop man that is going to help me with the restoration on my 66 Coronet 440 2dr said I should have the body dipped. Are their any members who have had their cars dipped? What was the outcome? Anyone know where a "dipping" facility is near southwest Georgia? Any advice or pointers would be appreciated. I searched the forum before posting, but did not find anything.
Wayne
 
Most of us have them media or sand blasted. Or plain old sanded down.
 
Since I am rebuilding an 83 El Camino my funds are limited, co the hand sanding might be the way I have to go. I am checking in to the soda blasting, just getting quotes.
 
Pressurized baking soda. I am at the same stage as you are. I am choosing to have my super bee media blasted. I spent a lot of time looking for right company that seems to know what they are talking about. I have absolutely no affiliation with this company but google northtexascustoms and you can watch there process on line. They are pricey, but worth the look for an education.
 
Hello Cairopd1069,I have 65 coronet that I had some parts diped.They did a wonderful job.The parts that I had diped hood,doors,fenders,splash panel came back looking like nos parts.They also quoted me a price to dip the hole car for around 2,200.00.Check out my thread 426 street wedge.After they are diped he put another chemical on them to preserve them three months from rusting.There is no worping or sanding,or hidden sand. Pm me and I will be happy to share the vender.Dave L
 
You could also check into the high pressure water blasting or dustless blasting. They will come to you
 
One thing about diping is it seps into every seam n areas that looked okay .it will loosing up spot welds n let you see what you really have to replace. It makes working on the car a lot easier as ever thing is stripped to the bare metal it gives you something good to work with.
 
What about crushed walnut shells? They are said to not warp your metal and not leave the kind of residue that other media do.
 
Be careful with the soda blasting and know what epoxy primer you are using before you start. The spec sheet for spi specifically tells you not to soda blast.

The reason is that the bicarbonate soda (baking soda) leaves a light film on the surface. witch will allow you to leave the car bare for days. you should wash the film off before you apply your primer.
 
If you get your car Media Blasted, it's all about trade-offs. How much are you willing to spend, based on what's available in your community in terms of service providers. For this or that process or types of Blasting Media used, the trade-off game continues. Who has the best combination of whatever, good question? Another factor to consider is areas not seen vs. areas that are seen, some people could not care about areas not seen, others, like the crowd that adheres to priming the inside of their Frame Rails whereas they've lasted some 40+ yrs so far...is that really needed? Dipping from what I gather is a messy process, effective as it gets everywhere and cuts out the mess, rather, exposed the ills for you to negotiate. My blasting process has some benefits and drawbacks; the biggest PITA I deal with is getting all the Media out of the A Pillars, Roof channel webbing, and, the Rocker Panels, especially GM Gen1 Camaro that has dual core chambers inside. Where's Bumblebee when I need him to pick up that car, shake it out clean!!! ???

Warping Metal is not caused by a particular blasting Media, I hear 'Heat' all the time is the culprit. If you live or ever been to South Texas in the Summer, go outside at 4pm, put your hand on your Black car's hood, you will not keep it there long, but, does this hood warp? No. However, I understand the principle of warping in a one area from excessive heat being applied -- (comes from being a Welder). Hoods are #1 priority in care to prevent warping. How does a Hood warp from Media Blasting? Well, let me tell you from experience, first hand! It's like 100 small Ball Peen Hammers coming down at one in rapid succession on a 4 inch sq area under near 200cfm of air, albeit under 50psi. Position of the Hose/Nozzle is how you prevent warping them. BUT...For some super Flat no contour relief areas like a 68-69 GTX, Dart GTS where you got a BIG FLAT piece of real estate, you better be darn careful, have good light on subject, and run soft Plastic over it, with a dash of AO in the mix to give it a slight profile, and turn the air down a bit, it will take longer, but, great care has to be taken! Dipping this hood would likely be a better option, but, as I said earlier it's all about trade-offs and compromise. Even though there's no Dipper in S.Antonio, I do my work like there is, like the customer has other options, it's all about Six Sigma and ISO 9001 stuff...stuff I studied and got my degree in at UIW right here in S.Antonio after I retired from the Army.

So, it boils down to where you are, what's available, and how much do you want to spend, and, reading my posts here about Media Blasting because I'm giving it away for free, right here, and, I love all these cars, and, I treat them as if they're my own. Also, the other factor is cost, how much are you willing to spend? Often, those numbers do NOT jive with actual costs.

My 69 Camaro guy, (got to differentiate now as I have 2 same cars), rather my 69 CamaroDL guy wanted to try to Media Blast on his car. I said ok, no one has ever asked me to do this before, I had him waive my Liability on a release which he signed, and he was in there for about an hour blasting the support structure under the removed Qtrs and Roof skin. When I asked him if he wants to come back and try it in August he said "Absolutely not, you guys earn your money". Needless to say, he writes those checks super fast when I bill him!

Good luck!
 
Donny, I've done enough 'small scale' blasting to know I don't care about doing it on a large scale....probably because I'm in a worse climate (but probably not much worse lol) than you are! Do you have an air conditioned hood to wear?
 
Donny you couldnt have explained it any better. I purchased a media soda blaster from eastwood and this unit works well .the only material ive used is glass n this works very well. If you know what you are doing and the proper angle it is a simple steady process.i bought the combination set because the soda is excellent on restoring antique wood furniture.
 
I have been looking in to this as well, as I am about to start the restoration of my Road Runner.

Blasting vs. dipping could probably have an ongoing battle between members regarding what is better, the problems with each, etc. Donny, as always, explained it very well (I wish he was near me so he could do my car).

IMHO, it really boils down to expertise. If you have a local, competent, experienced business who does this for a living, then I would expect that you will get great results. But I also bet that if you think the price is too good to be true, it probably is. Any good method will be costly to do it right. Considering the costs to do the work over, I think it is well spent money.

In the North East (Philadelphia area), I haven't found a company with the facilities and expertise to fully strip my car, so mine may have to be largely stripped by hand :-(
 
The two machines I miss the most from work is the bead blaster and the steel shot machines! But that's ok, I'm very glad to be retired out of that time bomb of a refinery.
 
cairopd1069 this was a topic at one time if you research it you will find a lot of info there I believe that I posted a company in Beford Ohio that will do Chemical stripping of a complete body to parts and frames ,there was prices and phone numbers there look the old post up
 
hsoreman, try here, they have a training facility in PA, and, they may blast cars here too. http://www.usedsandblastandaircompressors.com/index9.html

Thanks Donny! Lots of equipment for sure. What I want to avoid is some gorilla (and I include myself in that term if I tried doing it) to screw something up when they strip the car. I am chatting with a restoration shop this weekend and will try to finalize stripping plans very soon.
 
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