First Gen Charger signal Flasher location

[Spartycus]

i am working on replacing my bulbs on a 67 Charger. Bulbs are in and look great but as anticipated, the LED is low voltage and the flasher doesn’t work. No problem, I anticipated it and have a low load flasher. Problem is, it’s not in the same spot as my 69 and I was messing under the dash and have not been able to locate it. No luck. Anyone know where the darn thing is?

 

[Spartycus]

Never mind, I found it under the glove box in its own holder under the lip of the dash. New flasher doesn’t work. I read something about polarity, I may have to swap wires

 

[Spartycus]

I used some loose wire I had sitting around and swapped terminals, it started flashing. Lights aren’t working correctly on drivers side though...

 

[multimopes]

Sounds like you are making good progress. Let us know, as you have been, when it works out! Thanks

 

[Spartycus]

Thanks. Got to figure out how to remove the terminals in the connector to swap them. Back at it tomorrow. At least I got one side to work. Love old wiring and new tech, lol

 

[Spartycus]

Success!!!!!!

Ok, it helps when I actually replace the right flasher... lol.


To trouble shoot (in case anyone has the same issue), I swapped the wires in the connector (after practicing on an old one I had in the garage) and tested. Last night I was getting some life out of the turn signals so I figured I had the right flasher...DOH!!!. After swapping the leads the blinkers were still dead. So for the hell of it I put the hazards on...everything lit up!!! After calling myself a few choice words I grabbed my flasher meant for the 69, messed around under the dash to find the blinker (both are on the passenger side maybe a foot from each other, hazard is closer to the door). Swapped the wires in that connector, connected both grounds to existing holes under the dash (no new holes) and fired it up. Everything worked like a champ!

If you are going to do these plasma updates (and I do recommend them, my alternator gauge no longer dives at stop lights or with blinkers on). This is what I did:

Tools-small socket set, Phillips head screw driver, set of pliers, small flat jewelers screw driver (providing you don’t have issues getting the screws out, one was stripped and couldn’t get at it with an easy out so I drilled the head off to get at the bezel off on one of them)

Items I purchased (at least for a 67 Charger). 6 red 1157 plasma leds, 2 yellow 1157 plasma leds. ( and 2 white 1156 plasma leds for the reverse lights that aren’t installed. Trying to figure out how to get those off... bolts up inside the bumper?.. really?.). And 2 low load flasher relays.

1. Replace the tail lights with the red and then test to make sure they all work. If they work, good to go. Test the blinkers at this point. Mine worked fine so if all you do is replace the rears, you are good to go.

2. Replace the front blinkers. Test each blinker and running lights. The lights should come on at this point but would be solid. Hazards are dead, at least for me.

3. Locate both flashers, pull one and install the low load in one position (remember, check for blinker vs hazard). Touch the ground and test. If the blinker does not start clicking, remove the flasher, use the jewelers flat head screw driver and pop the wires out of the flasher connector, swap positions and plug the flasher back in. Test again, at this point you should hear the flasher work. Connect the ground properly and have someone watch the flashers from the outside while you go though each sequence. Button everything up under the dash

4. Repeat step 3 for the other flasher and test. If you swapped wires in the first connector, you will probably have to do it in the second as well.

5. Test everything now (hazards, blinkers etc). The job is done!

Now to figure out how to replace the reverse lights...

 

[RedBeard]

Saw your post yesterday and came back after checking my 67 this morning. Glad you are getting it to work. Any picts of your progress?

 

[Spartycus]

I will take some later. Truth be told, this whole thing could be done in an hr if everything comes off and goes back on easily. The longest part for me was winging all the trouble shooting and looking up info (and worry I didn’t break anything in the process). I have had the car for 35 years but 34 of them it has been with my dad so the last 2 months I have finally been able to work on it. The 69 (I have had for 34) I know like the back of my hand so that one went easy. The two are just different enough that I get a little worried about doing more harm than good.

 

[RedBeard]

Yep. When it come to wiring I always take picture of all before I make any changes, just in case.

 

[multimopes]

Glad everything worked out and thanks for posting the procedure. You can do mine next, LOL.

 

[Spartycus]

It’s pretty easy once you do it. I am talking my dad through it on his 67 now.

 

[jogirob]

Thanks for the write up. I must'v spent like $80 in types multiple flashers. I finally bought some that were supposed to work no matter what polarity and no matter what mix of LED + normal bulbs I used. My signals and hazards still don't work.

Going to buy a box of normal bulbs to replace all the LED's the previous owner installed (tails only) and start troubleshooting from there. My electric troubleshooting abilities are nominal at best.

 

[Spartycus]

I made the change to take the load off the alternator/battery. I know different LEDs don’t always work the same. What I used were the plasma LEDs recommended in other posts here.
For the 67, I used the plasmas from west coast cougar. The tails I used red 1157s, running lights yellow 1157 and white 1156 for the reverse (not installed). For the 69 I used Putco Plasmas red 1157 and 2 1156 ( the other company didnt have 1156 in red so I went with one Mfg for consistency). And for the reverse white 1156 and running lights yellow 1157 (these were wccc like the 67 because they are substantially cheaper). 69 back up lights are in unlike the 67 and look good. These lights were plug and play and other then the flasher trouble shooting it was easy. On the 67, I plugged in the tail lights only and the flasher worked fine as is. It wasn’t until I put the front lights in that I needed a new flasher, at least on the 67.

 

[Spartycus]

As far as what products on used, for the 1157 bulbs I bought them here.https://secure.cougarpartscatalog.com/plasma6.html?attribs=75

I bought the red 6 pack for the 67 tail lights. I got the yellow 1157 (running lights) and 1156 white here for reverse lights. For this style you can’t beat the price for brightness, low amp draw and cost. IMO they are worth the extra cost than the regular incandescents.

For the flasher, I bought 2 of these per car. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/prf-80230. It took a little getting used to in the car. When the turn signal arm is returned to its neutral position, the flasher blinks one or 2 times after, it’s not an immediate stop.

For the 69 Charger, only thing I did differently is for the tail lights. I bought these https://www.summitracing.com/parts/put-241156r-360 For the 1042 inner light position since it’s just one filament and bought the 1157 red in the same manufactured in case there was a continuity of brightness between mfg.

I didn’t find these products myself, I want to give credit to the other members here who posted what they did and I used the same materials.

I am really happy with the way they turned out. I have to change the flashers on the 69 and both cars are done. The ambers look good and the light fills up the lens nicely on both cars. The housings I cleaned up while the lenses were off but they are just the normal silver that was in the car, nothing new. These are a little longer than the regular bulbs but I had no problems fitting them right in.

 

[Spartycus]

Ok, if any of you have been been following this thread, all this was done on a 67 Charger. Well, today I was going to replace the flashers on my 69 Charger. All the lights we changed a few weeks ago so this was the last step. Surprise, the 69 takes an oddball 3 prong relay. Not the same as what I have and not the same 3 prong I have seen on the parts sites. Before you do this, check your relay and what it takes. There has to be a work around. As soon as I get the car back in the garage I will do some more checking into it. If anyone has any ideas, please share. Maybe I just need 3 jumpers to convert it to accept the other 3 prong... this one caught me off guard. I should probably locate the hazard too to see if the relay is the same.