Hydrogen Powered Muscle Truck

[themechanic]

Not electric.

 

[Jerry Hall]

That should be the future of green, not electric.

 

[FitzyB5]

That is very impressive. Definitely should be the way of future autos. Not those bullshit electric cars with all the hazardous battery waste.

 

[RJRENTON]

HYDROGEN POWERED???? very specialized. HYDROGEN gas is liquid under pressure like propane or liquidified natural gas (LNG). Requires specialized equipment....storage tank, liquid to vaporizer, fuel metering throttle body. Very clean....zero emissions.....burning hydrogen results in only water vapor (H20). Hydrogen has low energy compaired to C3H6 (propane) or CH4 (LNG), HYDROGEN @ 325 BTU/ ft3 compared to 1000 BTU/ft3 (LNG) or gasoline 6239 BTU/ft3...plus availability is extremely limited. Not a very practical application....
Just my opinion of course.
BOB RENTON

 

[Photon440]

HYDROGEN POWERED???? very specialized. HYDROGEN gas is liquid under pressure like propane or liquidified natural gas (LNG). Requires specialized equipment....storage tank, liquid to vaporizer, fuel metering throttle body. Very clean....zero emissions.....burning hydrogen results in only water vapor (H20). Hydrogen has low energy compaired to C3H6 (propane) or CH4 (LNG), HYDROGEN @ 325 BTU/ ft3 compared to 1000 BTU/ft3 (LNG) or gasoline 6239 BTU/ft3...plus availability is extremely limited. Not a very practical application....
Just my opinion of course.
BOB RENTON

A bit of a misconception - burning hydrogen results in only water vapor IF it is burned with pure oxygen. Burning hydrogen in a vehicle that mixes it with regular air also produces NOx emissions, more than from natural gas because the flame speed is so high, but still much less than conventional liquid fuels.

A guy in my work complex has a new Toyota hydrogen car (Mirai) but it uses a fuel cell so it still has electric motors. There are a few hydrogen fueling stations in the area but long distance trips are a problem at the moment. He loves the car though.

 

[moparedtn]

I remember watching a film in school back around 1970 where some southern California college
students were working on a hydrogen-fuel car then (seems like it was even a Pinto or Vega??).
They made a big deal about taking a paper cup to the rear of the car and holding it under the
exhaust pipe, where they caught some dripping water as the car ran....and then they drank it,
I suppose trying to prove how "clean" the car ran.

Biggest problem with hydrogen seems to me like that whole thing of having to carry pressurized
BOOMBOOM fuel on board. Very explode-y.

 

[Jerry Hall]

No worse than LP gas, but face it, it will all go BOOM.

Biggest problem with hydrogen seems to me like that whole thing of having to carry pressurized
BOOMBOOM fuel on board. Very explode-y.

 

[themechanic]

I remember watching a film in school back around 1970 where some southern California college
students were working on a hydrogen-fuel car then (seems like it was even a Pinto or Vega??).
They made a big deal about taking a paper cup to the rear of the car and holding it under the
exhaust pipe, where they caught some dripping water as the car ran....and then they drank it,
I suppose trying to prove how "clean" the car ran.

Biggest problem with hydrogen seems to me like that whole thing of having to carry pressurized
BOOMBOOM fuel on board. Very explode-y.

The fear of exploding hydrogen is discussed and addressed in the video. It's not the Hindenburg, folks. So, relax.

BTW, they're showing the potential of a hydrogen powered vehicle. Clearly stated not ready for production.so, give it time.

 

[moparedtn]

No worse than LP gas, but face it, it will all go BOOM.

I ain't driving any LP vehicle either. Kablooey is kablooey.

 

[moparedtn]

The fear of exploding hydrogen is discussed and addressed in the video. It's not the Hindenburg, folks. So, relax.

BTW, they're showing the potential of a hydrogen powered vehicle. Clearly stated not ready for production.so, give it time.

I will never "relax" carrying hydrogen on-board at 5000psi +.
"Time"? They've been messing with that technology for over 50 years now!

 

[themechanic]

I will never "relax" carrying hydrogen on-board at 5000psi +.
"Time"? They've been messing with that technology for over 50 years now!

That's unfair because everyone knows the petroleum and auto industries have a lot of influence on what makes it to market. With 50 years of government subsidies we could all be driving hydrogen powered vehicles.

 

[moparedtn]

That's unfair because everyone knows the petroleum and auto industries have a lot of influence on what makes it to market. With 50 years of government subsidies we could all be driving hydrogen powered vehicles.

Might want to do a little research before talking about "subsidies"....because if you did, you'd discover:
Hydrogen energy research has received hundreds of $Millions of grants and subsidies, worldwide,
in the last half-century - including incredible amounts as we speak.

Fact is, pretty much all the grants and funding for research have been for "alternative fuels" for decades now,
so if you're looking for anything actually "unfair" - fossil fuel technology has pretty much been on its' own
for R&D $$$ for a very long time now by comparison.
There's your "conspiracy", right there.

I watched your little video and there's some stellar workmanship and tech there for sure....
but if you don't mind now, I'm going to turn my attention back to the actual purpose of this entire
website/forum, if that's ok.

 

[themechanic]

Might want to do a little research before talking about "subsidies"....because if you did, you'd discover:
Hydrogen energy research has received hundreds of $Millions of grants and subsidies, worldwide,
in the last half-century - including incredible amounts as we speak.

Fact is, pretty much all the grants and funding for research have been for "alternative fuels" for decades now,
so if you're looking for anything actually "unfair" - fossil fuel technology has pretty much been on its' own
for R&D $$$ for a very long time now by comparison.
There's your "conspiracy", right there.

I watched your little video and there's some stellar workmanship and tech there for sure....
but if you don't mind now, I'm going to turn my attention back to the actual purpose of this entire
website/forum, if that's ok.

Everyone knows about government subsidies for big oil. I've never heard anything about subsidies for big hydrogen. So, if you would be so kind as to inform the rest of us that would be appreciated.

 

[moparedtn]

Everyone knows about government subsidies for big oil. I've never heard anything about subsidies for big hydrogen. So, if you would be so kind as to inform the rest of us that would be appreciated.

I won't do your homework for you; it's readily available information for anyone to research.
Of course, they'd first want to know...and that seems to be lacking in your case.

Again - I'm returning to what this forum is all about, which ain't what you're trying to sell here.
I'm done with this.

 

[themechanic]

I won't do your homework for you; it's readily available information for anyone to research.
Of course, they'd first want to know...and that seems to be lacking in your case.

Again - I'm returning to what this forum is all about, which ain't what you're trying to sell here.
I'm done with this.

Don't go away mad we're just having a friendly discussion.