Is there any Mopar that is appreciating in a downswing?

[SteveSS]

I've often wondered if the lower priced stuff, like my 1971 Charger 500, 383 appreciates. Things that weren't sky-high, therefore felt the downswing in prices less. I'm happy I can afford a '69 Charger now, but is anything appreciating? Maybe the Blue Chips, like a Hemi 'Cuda or the bottom end like a 6 cylinder Duster?

 

[Budnicks]

Quality builds, tastefully built, always do appreciate or do better than trends do over the long term

100% all #'s matching, especially survivors, fully documented,
"Purist" type's will sometimes/mostly do relatively well...

Right now Resto-mods are doing really well,
kind of what we use to just call day 2 cars/hot-rodding 60's-80's...

Pro-touring seems to have a loyal 10+ year following too,
again it's quality/tasteful not trendy, is what counts, for resale...

Gen 3 71-74 Chargers have always been a great buy, 71's have shown some rise, it's hit & miss thou !!
they're just not great for resale, there are the exceptions to that rule thou,
except a select few with Hemi's or Six Packs OE factory cars "maybe"...

71-72 RR's & GTX's fall in that area too, 383-400 car cheaper {340 even more so},
the 71 Hemi/Six Pack cars "Pricey" & all over the map...

73-74's RR's & GTX's are still inexpensive to buy,
but resale investment value is poor...

Nothing like the Gen 2 Chargers 68-70 for holding value thou,
still values fluctuate allot, but more...

A-Bodies most were Small Block Cars or slant 6 cars,
some seem to be going up a little,
more than a few years ago anyway, still affordable...

my $0.02 cents,
opinions will vary vastly,
just like the collector/muscle car market does too...
what state you live in, can dictate trends in the market even...

 

[nakita7]

I'm a 71-72 B-body guy...they are worth nothing and I hope everyone just ignores them, they are worthless! They aren't as cool as a 69 Charger, never will be.

Back on topic...

A-bodies have gone way up
Mopar trucks too
The biggest jump in the last couple years, I see, are the pre-1966 cars and resto-mods. Us older guys all love the new Challenger tech and drivability, but 'have' to have the older bodies. That will continue for awhile yet. My three boys (in their early 20's) all love Mopars, but they hate driving them, period. What will that generation be buying in the future? Think about it.

 

[Bruzilla]

The only cars that are appreciating right now are very, VERY, limited production/rare cars, like one of ten or less. Everything else is in what I would classify an Appearance of Appreciation status. i.e., guys selling their cars are asking a very inflated price in the hopes of not losing too much money of them but selling them for below the listed price. This is the category a lot of A bodies are in now as they get dumped on the market.

Trucks are another matter all together and are the hot item in the market right now. I have no idea what's driving that, but vintage trucks are appreciating quickly.

 

[MarPar]

Quality builds, tastefully built, always do appreciate or do better than trends do over the long term

100% all #'s matching, especially survivors, fully documented,
"Purist" type's will sometimes/mostly do relatively well...

Right now Resto-mods are doing really well,
kind of what we use to just call day 2 cars/hot-rodding 60's-80's...

Pro-touring seems to have a loyal 10+ year following too,
again it's quality/tasteful not trendy, is what counts, for resale...

Gen 3 71-74 Chargers have always been a great buy, 71's have shown some rise, it's hit & miss thou !!
they're just not great for resale, there are the exceptions to that rule thou,
except a select few with Hemi's or Six Packs OE factory cars "maybe"...

71-72 RR's & GTX's fall in that area too, 383-400 car cheaper {340 even more so},
the 71 Hemi/Six Pack cars "Pricey" & all over the map...

73-74's RR's & GTX's are still inexpensive to buy,
but resale investment value is poor...

Nothing like the Gen 2 Chargers 68-70 for holding value thou,
still values fluctuate allot, but more...

A-Bodies most were Small Block Cars or slant 6 cars,
some seem to be going up a little,
more than a few years ago anyway, still affordable...

my $0.02 cents,
opinions will vary vastly,
just like the collector/muscle car market does too...
what state you live in, can dictate trends in the market even...

Buds pretty much nailed it....:headbang:

 

[moparmarks]

Actually 71-2 Plymouths are just as high or higher then they ever have been. See a lot more of them selling at around 50K then ever before. Maybe the code V cars are down a bit but 440 4-spd cars are bringing good coin. Even quality 383 cars are too. Don't think Chargers will ever bring the money the Plymouths do just like Challengers don't compared with Cudas.

 

[Bruzilla]

Might want to do some shopping around. I was looking at a 72 Roadrunner, 440/727, in primer ready to paint, complete but needing new carpet/headliner/seat covers, for $7,000 yesterday. Also, I've been seeing 68-70 Chargers running about double what Roadrunners are going for, but 71-74 cars are about on par with each other.

But even with those numbers. you have to look at what's for sale and what's selling. There's a very nice 74 360 Roadrunner near me that's been for sale for $11,000 for over two years now. My fav is the 73/74 Roadrunners so I track them pretty closely and there are eight that I've been tracking on the East coast, and the ones that are over $8,000 aren't selling, nor are 71-72 cars over $15,000. They're listed at much higher prices, but they aren't selling.

Keep an eye on the Mecum auction this weekend. They are auctioning off a lot of the Wellborn Collection, and they have a lot of 71-72 Chargers going on the block. There's also a Tor-Red 440-6 Superbird going across tomorrow that I'm very interested in seeing what it sells for.

 

[moparmarks]

I have been looking around. Been watching 71-2 B's for about 25 years and have owned over 20 of them. I'm not talking about project cars, Chargers or 73-4 B's. I'm talking 71-2 Plymouths. I'm not comparing them to 68-70 B's either but about 3 years ago a 71 Hemi RR way out sold all the other 65-70 Hemi B-bodies at BJ. I'm saying real nice 71-2 Plymouth's are as strong as they have ever been. A 71 Hemi RR will run with most any 65-70 Hemi B. Last year at BJ a 71 RR which I thought to be a 10-15,000 car sold for 42,000 but that's BJ. In real life about a year ago a friend sold a really nice 71 GTX 4-spd Dana Air Grabber car for 61,000. Have seen other real nicely optioned 71-2 Plymouths sell for 50K or more. Seen several go for around 30K. Not baseline 383 bench seat auto on the column cars. Not asking but actually selling. I've also owned a lot of 68-70 B's and 62-65 B's over the years and yes on average the 68-70's are the most popular. My first car back in the 70's was a 69 Charger R/T and wish I still have that one. I've also owned several 73-4 B's but never really liked them as much as the earlier cars. Look too much like what my grandma would drive to me and 73-4's will never bring the coin of a 71-2. Course I never cared for Superbirds and Daytonas either but was at BJ in Vegas a few weeks ago when a yellow SB bench auto sold for 110K and our Sassy Grass 340 Cuda vert sold for 98K.
In my earlier post I was talking about 71-2 Plymouths bringing more than 71-2 Chargers but I have seen 68-70 RR's bring as much coin as 68-70 Chargers too.

 

[HT413]

It seems to me the popularity / cult status of mopars is on the rise. As such, i feel that as more people are attracted to the brand, cars at all price points will benefit.

 

[snakeoil24]

Usually only Hemi cars are assured Appreciation The Version II 426 series. Earlier versions and the new small block stuff wont' since they really are not Hemi's. Wedge cars are still a dime a dozen.

 

[themechanic]

I just keep appreciating my 69 Coronet R/T when I see them sell for way more than I have invested in mine.

FBBO is appreciating daily, too.

 

[Bruzilla]

Most restored/good condition 71-72 Roadrunners I've seen for sale for the past two years have been listed in the $15k-$20k range. I don't know where these $40-$60k cars are unless they're at some collector car dealership.

 

[dieseldazzle]

I got to be honest but lately when I have my 67 charger out I get tons and tons of offers on it. Some things have no monetary value to me. My wife and son suprised me with this car and that to me is priceless.

I made the mistake of having it in a picture along with her 69 camaro for sale on ebay and all of the interest has been on my charger.

Either they think it is only worth 1500 bux or maybe people are just starting to get more into original looking cars from this era??

Not sure.

 

[Bruzilla]

The bottom is really falling out of the "project" car market because it just doesn't make much sense to buy project cars anymore unless you're genuinely looking for a past time. Car prices are low enough now that it you're in the market for a cruiser it's cheaper to just buy a car that's already done or near done.

 

[HT413]

The bottom is really falling out of the "project" car market because it just doesn't make much sense to buy project cars anymore unless you're genuinely looking for a past time. Car prices are low enough now that it you're in the market for a cruiser it's cheaper to just buy a car that's already done or near done.

This has always been the case, though.

 

[moparmarks]

Most restored/good condition 71-72 Roadrunners I've seen for sale for the past two years have been listed in the $15k-$20k range. I don't know where these $40-$60k cars are unless they're at some collector car dealership.

Believe this one just sold.
http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=295642

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I also know a of a bogus 72 RR that is actually a 71 Satellite that had the vin swapped. Last I saw of it sold for 28K. Someday someone is going to be really pissed off that they paid that much for a 71 Satellite.

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1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 4-speed
Super Track Pack Dana Rear End.
Numbers Matching to the Car, 440 Engine, 4 Speed Transmission, Dana Rear End, and Radiator.
Original Re-chromed Bumpers, etc.
Everything on this car has been either rebuilt or is new.
16 Miles on the Engine and 0 on the paint.
$32500
Located in Central Iowa. Please CALL me at 319-404-3415. NO TEXTS OR EMAILS.

I know the guy that just bought this car.

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I see what people are selling for 10-20K and most are driver condition in my book.

 

[toolmanmike]

Believe this one just sold.
http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=295642

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I also know a of a bogus 72 RR that is actually a 71 Satellite that had the vin swapped. Last I saw of it sold for 28K. Someday someone is going to be really pissed off that they paid that much for a 71 Satellite.

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1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 4-speed
Super Track Pack Dana Rear End.
Numbers Matching to the Car, 440 Engine, 4 Speed Transmission, Dana Rear End, and Radiator.
Original Re-chromed Bumpers, etc.
Everything on this car has been either rebuilt or is new.
16 Miles on the Engine and 0 on the paint.
$32500
Located in Central Iowa. Please CALL me at 319-404-3415. NO TEXTS OR EMAILS.

I know the guy that just bought this car.

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I see what people are selling for 10-20K and most are driver condition in my book.

I would consider either of those cars a good buy. They both look nicely done and it's pretty easy to put $30 g's in a complete restoration. When the popular higher dollar cars are already owned, the less popular ones bring more money. I have a 66 Dart GT with a HP273, 4 speed, Sure grip. The complete or restored cars like mine can bring as high as $20,000 whereas a cherry unrestored slant 6 car may only a few thousand.

 

[Roger63]

Most restored/good condition 71-72 Roadrunners I've seen for sale for the past two years have been listed in the $15k-$20k range. I don't know where these $40-$60k cars are unless they're at some collector car dealership.

with in house financing

 

[Bruzilla]

This has always been the case, though.

Not during the late 1990s through to 2008 it sure wasn't. That's why guys were paying out the *** for rust bucket parts cars. Unless you could afford an entry price point of $30,000+, you weren't getting a driver. The drivers were being snapped up by shops looking to restore and get the big bucks, and they were driving the prices on the project cars. Now that there;s no more mass restoration market, the drivers are going back to being bought by collectors and the project cars are going back to being bought by hobbyists or being parted out.

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Just watched a really nice 72 GTX 440/4 with Air Grabber fail to crack $35k at Mecum today. I wonder what crazy reserve was on it.

 

[dieseldazzle]

I remember when my dad and uncles used to buy big block mopars for under 1,000 bux all day long....