Remember when Ford had better ideas? If ever!
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451Mopar
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FORD ECO-BOOST = Cheaply made engines to Boost FORDS Economy.
not so famous bob
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my wife's eco boost had to have a new short block at 50,000 miles , luckily she had an extended warranty on it , wouldn`t buy a Ford without it !!!
451Mopar
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I bought a new FORD Contour once and it had a bunch or recalls, and by 60,000 miles everything started to fail.
I might consider an older 7.2L Diesel truck, but not much else from FORD.
On the other hand, none of the new MOPAR vehicles interest me either.
I might consider an older 7.2L Diesel truck, but not much else from FORD.
On the other hand, none of the new MOPAR vehicles interest me either.
The only good idea he had was to put his name on a Dodge. And he f#%ked that up royally . (25 million dollar mistake)
Ron_M
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Well, they DID sell the brass fuel sender floats separately so that we didn't have to purchase a whole sender assembly so I will give them that.
All manufacturers are sacrificing long term reliability for better MPG. I've been reading some white papers from SAE media describing many GDI engines require head removal and valve blasting with walnut shells at 50 to 70K miles because of massive carbon buildup. Cost estimate is like $2,000 for this service.
Turbo motors definitely reduce long term reliability as the small displacement motors cannot take the abuse as a simple normally aspirated V8 or V6.
There's no free lunch. Maybe hybrids help with efficiency, but if you are a 200k miler kind of guy like myself battery replacement eliminated the efficiency saved in gas.
Turbo motors definitely reduce long term reliability as the small displacement motors cannot take the abuse as a simple normally aspirated V8 or V6.
There's no free lunch. Maybe hybrids help with efficiency, but if you are a 200k miler kind of guy like myself battery replacement eliminated the efficiency saved in gas.
I work at a chain auto parts store and have explained the "Italian Tune Up" to a few customers. I recommend a can of Berrymans Chem tool and a few blasts on I-10 from 50 to 80MPH. So far three customers have reported back idle issues solved or improved.
I think with GDI you have major drivability issues similar to high speed misfires and backfire, etc. The only resolution there is a combustion chamber walnut shells blasting of the head.
I think with GDI you have major drivability issues similar to high speed misfires and backfire, etc. The only resolution there is a combustion chamber walnut shells blasting of the head.
My Brother has told me a story about a friend who bought one of the bastardized Mustang EVs a couple years ago. One day while driving the back hatch glass shattered, for no obvious reason. The dealer ordered a new glass under warranty for it but when it arrived the service tech said he couldn’t find any way to disassemble the hatch to remove all the shrouding around the top of the hatch in order to install the glass. Apparently the factory didn’t either and they ended up having to order a new, completely assembled hatch with glass ($) to install. Not sure if it came pre-painted or if the dealer had to paint it.
Not one of Fords better ideas on several levels,
Not one of Fords better ideas on several levels,
From what I understand, many direct injection engines (at least gasoline) suffer from carbon buildup, but on the backs of the intake valves and valve stems. If I understand it right, a port injected, throttle body or carbureted engine all have fuel vapor as it goes past the back of the intake valves, and this has a cleaning effect. On a direct injected engine there is no cleaning effect and thus, carbon buildup.
JDmac72chrgr
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Read the same article; TOYOTA, VW & HONDA went DI turbos, carbon build-up in valves, which are EXTREMELY small. How can engineers NOT figure this out, oh, my bad, bean counters making decisions, "DO IT, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT LATER" AND "WE'LL GET PEOPLE IN EVs 1 WAY OR ANOTHER"
I am on my 3rd Transit with an Eco boost. 380k in the first one 395k on the second one. 63K on my 2023. Great vans. Wife has had 2 Eco boost SUV’s no issues.
So my Eco Boost experience has been great.
So my Eco Boost experience has been great.
LowBikeMike
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We were walnut blasting GM 3.8l engines back in the late 80's for drivability issues without removing the heads. Carbon buildup on the back of intake valves is nothing new.
How about that Ford 4.0 litre V-6 with the right side timing chain on the back of the engine. What a piece of junk that was.
Detective D
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While I agree 100% the manufacturers are designing garbage left and right, make sure not to discount the absolute piss water they call gasoline in the modern day regarding service procedures and durability.
My 98 Dakota 318/5 speed gains 3mpg by adding a bottle of seafoam to the fuel. Not kidding. Maybe it adds octane rating, I dunno. I did the math and the bottle is cheaper then the gas I would burn not adding it, at least right now at 3-4 bucks a gallon. YMMV in other parts of the country.
Japan made turbo stuff in the 80's that could run forever, so it's not like the tech is to new ad shiny to figure out. Getting it to run without detonating on boost with crap gas might be though.....
My 98 Dakota 318/5 speed gains 3mpg by adding a bottle of seafoam to the fuel. Not kidding. Maybe it adds octane rating, I dunno. I did the math and the bottle is cheaper then the gas I would burn not adding it, at least right now at 3-4 bucks a gallon. YMMV in other parts of the country.
Japan made turbo stuff in the 80's that could run forever, so it's not like the tech is to new ad shiny to figure out. Getting it to run without detonating on boost with crap gas might be though.....
mpgmike
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I'm working with a friend that has had a mobile mechanic business for many years. He is willing to tackle head gaskets, engine swaps, and VVT crap -- stuff normal shops shy away from. The VVT parts are highly prone to failure; according to him. Ford has introduced "improved" cam phasers for several applications. Dorman still offers the original OEM stuff that failed to begin with. Personally, for my DD, I'm sticking with my '95 Jeep GC with the 4.6 stroker. Simple!
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