So this is what happened before the "protests"???

[moparsaver]

 

[F4R/T]

Interesting conversation I guess it all comes down to a few simple things. Most of us were always told to mind our own business and have done it very well. It’s when it gets stuffed in my face and they tell us it’s all good, it’s BS. Animals know better ! We are top of the food chain..They need to learn to mind their own and leave us alone. I work for USS, they hung a ... flag below the US flag the other day, straight folks raised heck about it and were told it’s a condition of your employment ... Piss on the white / black and other race straight guys/ gals is their attitude. Sorry guys and gals I’m ranting I know ... I grew up God fearing and I am. I don’t care what you do behind closed doors but leave it there. Mods I get it if I went too far.

 

[vintage chromoly]

Merica!

 

[barbee6043]

I feel bad for anyone that is mentally retarded. Some way more so than others.

Was it John Wayne that said, "A guy can cut off his Johnson, and all that makes him is a guy without a Johnson".

 

[Triplegreen500]

Mental retardation is a genetic defect, physically provable through science. There are physical parts missing from the DNA and from the body, that cause it.

"Gender dysphoria"? Is a total crock of ****. There is ZERO physical evidence or cause of this made-up, fucked-up "disease". Want proof? Look at how people are behaving about it. "Pride"? No. I WANT ATTENTION is more like it. And, that's what it comes down to. "I'm not happy with the hand I've been dealt in life, so I'm going to change everything I can think of and I'm going to FORCE other people to validate my choices so I can feel important, and better about myself".

Mentally retarded people don't demand a holiday. They don't have marches for themselves. They don't give themselves a flag, or an award, or force other people to treat them differently. They simply...exist, and they do the best they have with what they've got. Like all of us do. Yes, there are fundraisers for Downs patients...but they aren't put together by the patients themselves, and not for their own "glory". They are actual, medical-treatment fundraisers to raise money to try and find solutions for an actual physical problem.

LGBTQ? Demand holidays. Months. Flags. Parades. Special treatment. For themselves. It's ego. And, it's all bullshit.

If a guy wants to sleep with guys, that's no problem for me. Some guys like gingers, some like blondes, some like brunettes...some like guys. Same for women - blonde, brunette, or another woman...have at it. Just KEEP IT PRIVATE. That's why it's called your PERSONAL LIFE. But to call it a "physical difference"? Nope. Show me the proof. Show me the different chromosome. Show me the different chemicals in the brain (not medication, but actual neural pathways and chemicals that are physically different).

You can't, because they don't exist.

It is a choice.

And I do not have to treat you differently because of your choice.

I have to stay dressed in public; in changing rooms; in spas? So do you. I have to respect other people, avoid sexual harassment suits in the workplace, and not get arrested for offending a member of the opposite sex? So do you. I have to keep my hands off children, respect the parents' wishes, and not flash my junk at little boys and girls? SO DO YOU.

And if I break any of those rules, I get arrested (or worse).

SO.
DO.
YOU.

THERE is your "equality".

 

[Hilljack68]

"Gender dysphoria"? Is a total crock of ****. There is ZERO physical evidence or cause of this made-up, fucked-up "disease". Want proof? Look at how people are behaving about it. "Pride"? No. I WANT ATTENTION is more like it. And, that's what it comes down to. "I'm not happy with the hand I've been dealt in life, so I'm going to change everything I can think of and I'm going to FORCE other people to validate my choices so I can feel important, and better about myself".

Well said TG. You just hit the nail square on the head!

 

[Thrashingcows]

Not once did I condone what this individual did, I think it was wrong and was handled incorrectly, and the individual should have to face the consequences that any other member of society would be faced with.

You all keep saying to keep what they are, LGBTQ, private...so what does that mean? Do they have to dress, talk and act in what you consider a socially acceptable manner? So a trans-woman can't dress like a woman, or a trans-man has to dress like woman simply because their chromosomes dictate that they are supposed to be one or another? What about public displays of affection? Are they not allowed to hold hands, kiss or show any form of affirmation to their partners?

I understand that a lot of your comments and beliefs are derived from your personal religion(s), I dropped religion many decades ago but I'm truly trying to understand your points of view.

 

[Triplegreen500]

Dress however you want.

I can dress like a banker...or a field worker. Doesn't mean I get in the face of Every. Person. I. Meet. and force them to recognize that I'm a guy dressed like a banker, or a field worker.

Dress however you want. DO whatever you want (within the bounds of the law). But go about your lives like normal freakin' people. You don't need a rainbow flag to go to the grocery store, any more than I need to fly a DTOM flag everywhere I go.

My beliefs are MINE, and until they infringe upon YOUR beliefs...they are not your problem.

Your beliefs are yours, and until they infringe upon MINE....keep 'em to yourself. It's when you start forcing yours on me, that we have a problem.

note: "your" is a global, not a specific. Not a personal attack on any forum members.

 

[440RUSH]

And another thing... how about a parade for balding, white, heterosexual males who hold a job, don't commit crimes, pay their taxes, and support their families?!?

The way things are going it might be a short parade.

 

[Triplegreen500]

I guess what I'm trying to say is, LGBTQMNOP is a choice, not an identity. Stop trying to treat it like it makes you special, because you've made that choice. You're not special.

I.
Don't.
Care.
What.
You.
Do.

(See? That's kinda the definition of "freedom" - you can do what you want!)
Stop forcing me to see it.

If I want to know...I'll ask. Otherwise...give it a rest.

 

[Wojo68]

If I’m repeating my apologies. I couldn’t give two shits what consulting adults do. I’m just F ing tired of people trying to shove their sexual preferences, political or religious views down everyone else’s throat. IDGAF Stick that flag/finger in my face, then standby. You wanna talk some sports, mopars (hopefully) then cool. Otherwise like Hey-O said, just leave me alone.

 

[barbee6043]

I still think if a guy cuts off his Johnson he is crazy!

 

[CudaChick1968]

Social Engineering ... bombarding society with the notion that anything and everything is acceptable conduct solely in an effort to remove taboo and longstanding morals.

When such a small percentage of that society controls the narrative, we all suffer the ramifications. Our kids and grandkids will suffer the worst in the long run.

I remember when such things used to be private. They still should be.