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Drinking & Driving - Penalties

HYRDGOON

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Thought I would throw this one out there.

What are the penalties like in the state/province/region you're in and are they stiff enough.

We just had an absolute tragedy here that's put this front and center in the media. On Sunday at 4 p.m. a drunk driver t-boned a minivan carrying a Grandfather, grandmother, mother and 3 children age 9,5 and 2. the Grandfather and all 3 children were killed.

To add to the drama the 29 year old driver of the range rover that is facing 18 charges several of them mixes of impaired driving causing death is a member of one of Canada's top 5 wealthiest families.

I pray that justice is delved out

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Not NEARLY severe enough. Drunk driving is not only a crime, it is also a sickness, and should be treated as such.

Recently in this area, a head on with a drunk killed a young father and two daughters.
 
It is not nearly severe enough! Twenty years ago, a friend and his wife were on their Harley, heading home on a two lane State highway. A woman in a Ford F250 4x4 pulled out from a bar parking lot without stopping, and my friends hit her in the DS door. He impacted the cab roof and was killed instantly. His wife flew over the truck and impacted the asphalt 60 feet away, She was in a coma for over three months, and in rehab for over two years. Left their four-year old son fatherless.

What happened to the drunk F250 driver? Four days in county jail, fines totaling a whopping $500 dollars, and a DUI charge. Not even an involuntary manslaughter charge was brought against her! Karma got her a few years later, when a drunk driver hit and killed HER.

So, yeah, drunk driving penalties; as well as ALL others involving distracted driving, should be as severe as practical. Especially when loss of life is involved!
 
It's a sad situation and I'm not sure that there is a perfect way to prevent drunk driving. The fact is that most people who have their license suspended or revoked continue to drive anyway. Even if they are caught driving without a license nothing much happens to them. Around here, there is very little chance that they will do any jail time simply because the jail is already full. They usually get a court date assigned and walk out the door. Some have even been seen driving to and from the court house. If it was up to me, drunk drivers would automatically have their cars impounded and sold at auction. Eventually they will run out of cars or money to buy them.
 
I got a DUI twenty years ago when I turned 21. I was just over the limit and at the time it was .10 (now .08). I had to take 12 hours of classes and pay about $2,000.00 in fines. I got a flat tire and the cop smelled alcohol on me so luckily I did not get in an accident or hurt anyone with my stupid decision. I never drank and drove again and now I do not drink alcohol at all.
 
As bad as it is, impaired driving should not be the only main focus for handing out fines and suspensions. I couldn't begin to tell you how many terribly maintained cars I've seen on the road. I know the times are hard every now and then but what gives some drivers the right to ignore their vehicle's condition especially when it could put others lives at stake. Bald tires, burned out lights of all types, shocks that are finished and the list goes on. Accountabilty will surely find it's way to the culprit that ignores their cars condition after a serious accident, but, do we really need another law to make drivers responsible for sake of those around them on the highways?
 
NOT severe enough here, they did just change some laws so that if you are caught dui with a child under a certain age it is a much more severe penalty, but still not enough to stop it from happening.

I think it should be taken more seriously at the point of sale, the majority of dui incidents are on the way home from a bar, restaurant, or event. SO IMO, we need a few things..
1-bar tenders need to be licensed, and have training on how to serve and detect when someone can not drive. Most states have programs and licenses but I am talking about something better. The bar tender should be able to be criminally charged if someone leaves the establishment un-reported and hurts someone.
2- The establishment needs to also be held responsible, I am talking legal criminal charges...
3-much stiffer penalties, first offense no license for x amount of time, the time should coordinate with a mandatory treatment program, and after you get the license back you should only be able to drive to and from work for x amount of time, and have to keep a badge on your vehicle (like a dominos sign) that says "I AM ON DUI PROBATION, HOW IS MY DRIVING, CALL ***-***-xxxx".
4- To fund all of this the financial penalties should be STIFF, like $25K on time payments if they have to be...

second offences should be mandatory jail time, say 12 months, 2 years no license, $100K fine, and if someone is hurt or accident resulting, they should be publicly caned.. If you get caught once and have to go through all that **** and then have the balls to do it again, you wont stop until you hurt someone, thats just a hard fact of life, people that dont learn from once, arent going to learn from twice, so chop off their hands so they cant drive anymore...

I was rear ended by a drunk driver, no one was hurt, I was at a stop sign and he forgot to stop, maybe 6 mph, I was on a service call at 2am in the middle of winter, out working to support my family, and all I could think about was this ******* douche bag could have killed me because he doesn't feel good enough about himself to stop drinking after a couple drinks, or to call a cab... I remember sitting at home afterwards (he was arrested at the scene) wishing I had kicked the ******* **** out of his drunk ***, I have NO idea why I didn't, I must have been over tired or had a concussion because to this day I don't know why I didn't rip him through the window and stove his head in, damn regrets....

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As bad as it is, impaired driving should not be the only main focus for handing out fines and suspensions. I couldn't begin to tell you how many terribly maintained cars I've seen on the road. I know the times are hard every now and then but what gives some drivers the right to ignore their vehicle's condition especially when it could put others lives at stake. Bald tires, burned out lights of all types, shocks that are finished and the list goes on. Accountabilty will surely find it's way to the culprit that ignores their cars condition after a serious accident, but, do we really need another law to make drivers responsible for sake of those around them on the highways?


Around here our cars are in pretty good shape, we have inspections every 1 or 2 years depending on your vin numbers last digit and what year it is, they hook the car to the sniffer, dial in the ecm, and check for safety, tire depth, brake condition, all lights working, no broken, glass, working seatbelts, no rot, etc...

I remember years ago, we used to see junk boxes going down the road, cars with mis colored doors and fenders, cars being chased by a HUGE plume of smoke. Not anymore, hardly ever do you even see a peddiddle going down the road... (thats a headlight out, lol, not sure if that word translates through all 50 states, we used to punch the person next to us and say pediddle when we seen a car with a winking front end at night, dediddle was a bad brake light, and tediddle was a blinker out, which was very hard to prove, you had to spot them fast and either the front or back had to be blinking with one NOT blinking...)
 
My opinion on DUI is: ZERO TOLERANCE for the person or persons involved no matter what the extenuating circumstances are....PERIOD....put them in jail for the sentnced time A personal occurance many years ago.....my Mother was killed by a drunk driver who was also coked up and was a convicted fellon out on parole...all this occured on Mothers day nite. The bastard is presently serving a 20 year sentance in jail without parole for vehicular man slaughter.....but my mother is dead.... what is the justice???
RJ Renton
 
recently a guy re-ends a family of 4 killing the children in the back of the car, pushing them into on coming traffic and finishing them off....ALL of them including the children. the family is standing behind their loved one claiming he had a seizure from diabetes.
In my opinion they should go TO JAIL TOO!....so let that sink in.....





he was in jail 4 years ago for DWI!!!!!!!
 
The laws here are a joke, I've known way to many people growing up that would get away with it over and over again sometimes just being thrown in jail to sober up. I've got a friend that lost a son to a drunk driver and the driver just happened to be a friend I had known since childhood so I have no tolerance for drunk drivers, they are a threat to everyone and need put away.

That's a tragic story Goon!
 
What a tragic story Goon.
My guess is texting is also involved. I see it every day. It's a bigger problem than simple drunk driving. Mix the two and look out.

I would rather face a drunk coming at me because at least he's trying to see where he's going. The punks these days with their faces buried in their phones are far more dangerous. They're doing everything except trying to watch where they're going.
 
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