Disc Brake conversation

[Deaken]

So I have a 1970 Satellite sport with drums all way around and I'm looking to upgrade. I'm new to the classic scene and swapping brakes so bare with me if I ask some stupid questions. But anyways, I've read some of the other posts about the SSBC conversions and there's been a lot of negativity about that company so what's the best option for $1,500-2,000? In that price range would it be best to get a wilwood front disc brake kit and leave the rears drums, or? Also I have noticed they make kits for disc brake spindles and some for drums. Obviously I know I'll need ones for drums but I also have thought of lowering the car and inch or 2 all the way around so would it be best to buy a set of drop spindles and get the kit for disc brake spindles or? Forgive the questions I've never done any suspension stuff either. Thanks in advance.

 

[Deaken]

Anyone done anything similar to this?

 

[coronet68mx]

Hi I think before you do anything you should read this first http://www.moparaction.com/Tech/archive/disc-main.html

 

[coronet68mx]

I think is cheap, affordable , and no mix and match stuff

 

[Bb70charger500]

 

[Bb70charger500]

I bought this setup from elitevintageauto.com
It was a little bit more then you said you want to pay but I bought a better then basic kit so there's a cheaper kit
Or I was told you can put 33rd gen b body front disc brake parts on those older cars to convert to disc up front .

 

[Deaken]

I bought this setup from elitevintageauto.com
It was a little bit more then you said you want to pay but I bought a better then basic kit so there's a cheaper kit
Or I was told you can put 33rd gen b body front disc brake parts on those older cars to convert to disc up front .

I was looking at a 6 piston 12.19" front and 4 pistol 12.19" rear disc wilwood kit with a summit brand booster and wilwood master cylinder that was $2,7XX but I hate to spend that kind of cash if I'm not going to be happy with it.

 

[747mopar]

Hi I think before you do anything you should read this first http://www.moparaction.com/Tech/archive/disc-main.html

Someone had already done this conversion to my Charger before I bought it, I bought new rotors and calipers at the local auto store and have put 7,000 on it with no issues.

 

[Bb70charger500]

I'm sure you'll like it ! But stock front disc are a good upgrade for now then if your still wanting a little more then go for the big setup

 

[Deaken]

Hi I think before you do anything you should read this first http://www.moparaction.com/Tech/archive/disc-main.html

Thanks for the article, I'm more torn now then before I started this thread..... Lol wonder how hard/time consuming it would be to piece together a set like this? The car is primarily going to be a weekend car and to drive to shows. I highly doubt it would ever see a track but if it did it would be just to see what kind of time it would turn. So I'm struggling with how much to invest in a set of brakes.

 

[coronet68mx]

Hi again look man it seem like a lot of parts but those parts are really common to find in my case I look for the parts in old shops were they remember those cars and still have the spares psrts on the shells covered in dust you are gonna spend s lot of time in yunk yards trying to find these parts ( at least here in Mexico most of the a bodies are scrap parts or in the worst cases long gone ) but if I can find the right setup here in my country am more then sure you are gonna find a a body that you can use for your car in USA saludos desde Mexico

 

[rrTor-Red]

Thanks for the article, I'm more torn now then before I started this thread..... Lol wonder how hard/time consuming it would be to piece together a set like this? The car is primarily going to be a weekend car and to drive to shows. I highly doubt it would ever see a track but if it did it would be just to see what kind of time it would turn. So I'm struggling with how much to invest in a set of brakes.

If it's a weekend car and going to shows, then why spend big $$$ for the Wilwood stuff? Contact Cass (Dr. Diff), use the article above and do it yourself, or Wayne (Ram man) for your brakes. Put the saved $$$ towards something else

 

[Deaken]

If it's a weekend car and going to shows, then why spend big $$$ for the Wilwood stuff? Contact Cass (Dr. Diff), use the article above and do it yourself, or Wayne (Ram man) for your brakes. Put the saved $$$ towards something else

I guess I just don't have a lot of faith in 40 year old technology. The oldest car I've owned is a 87 Mustang (I'm 30 years old) so I guess I just don't know how good/bad the stock disc brakes from around that Era was. And I'd hate to wreck the car cause I tried to save a few bucks on brakes.

 

[65-440]

40 year old technology ? They still run single piston calipers on today's new cars, you'll be fine.

 

[wagonman]

I just got a frt disc set up off a 71 satelite wagon complete, cut off at the controll arms. Paid $50 so deals are still out there.

 

[Deaken]

40 year old technology ? They still run single piston calipers on today's new cars, you'll be fine.

As I said you'll have to forgive the ignorant questions. The article posted earlier was talking of how the disc brakes from early 70's were sub par so it should be that that new(er) brakes could/should be better. For example a new 5.0 coyote motor is in no way the same as a 5.0 from '95 back Mustangs. Both are 5 liter v8s but there's vast differences. I don't know enough of brakes to know what could have been charged from' 73 cars to newer cars. Again I'm not trying to be a smart butt just trying to get information before I make a purchase as to which brakes I'm going with.

 

[HEMI-ITIS]

For street applications,newer OEM stuff is fine.In the past the Wildwood stuff had issues with heat with heavier cars. I went SSBC with my 3900 brick with no problem stopping from 145 MPH at the track or in bumper to bumper traffic.

 

[pushrod]

Try Pirate Jack's. Around $600 for manual brakes and 2" drop spindles are, i believe,
about $100 bucks upgrade.

 

[coronet68mx]

As I said you'll have to forgive the ignorant questions. The article posted earlier was talking of how the disc brakes from early 70's were sub par so it should be that that new(er) brakes could/should be better. For example a new 5.0 coyote motor is in no way the same as a 5.0 from '95 back Mustangs. Both are 5 liter v8s but there's vast differences. I don't know enough of brakes to know what could have been charged from' 73 cars to newer cars. Again I'm not trying to be a smart butt just trying to get information before I make a purchase as to which brakes I'm going with.

' Dodge
Ok what are we trying to say is a very simple fact that the disc brake technology is almost if it's not the same I'm every car of truck or plane or train or bike or whatever it is that use disk brake rotor the physics applied in braking is the same does not matter the brand of the brakes what changed is mainly number of piston used in the caliper the brake pads and the materials
Used to control and dissipate the heat produced in the braking process if you check a t bird from the early 60s ( I belive this car was the first to use a front disk brake system ) and a Lamborghini or whatever's car you want you will find that is the same basic set up so if we say to you that I you Will be fine with this "old set up" is just because it is and don't be afraid of ask anything here there are not dumb questions everybody here is very polite and willingly to answer any questions you may have again saludos desde Mexico

 

[Deaken]

' Dodge
Ok what are we trying to say is a very simple fact that the disc brake technology is almost if it's not the same I'm every car of truck or plane or train or bike or whatever it is that use disk brake rotor the physics applied in braking is the same does not matter the brand of the brakes what changed is mainly number of piston used in the caliper the brake pads and the materials
Used to control and dissipate the heat produced in the braking process if you check a t bird from the early 60s ( I belive this car was the first to use a front disk brake system ) and a Lamborghini or whatever's car you want you will find that is the same basic set up so if we say to you that I you Will be fine with this "old set up" is just because it is and don't be afraid of ask anything here there are not dumb questions everybody here is very polite and willingly to answer any questions you may have again saludos desde Mexico

That's why I said I wasn't trying be a smart butt when I responded cause I know it very well could have been perceived that way. It wasn't the intent just an example I could use was the 5 liter engines. I admittedly stand by the fact I'm pretty dumb when it comes to brakes. Yes I can take the rotors to be turned and replace the worn pads but don't understand the ins and outs of the system. Just like the booster and master cylinder, I don't have a clue which way to go or where to start to look.

As for the brakes I'm really giving some thought to trying out those adapter plates I posted in the video to bolt 05-14 Mustang rotors and calipers on. Mainly for the easy of finding a set. A local guy parts out cars and has a full set of front and rears off of a 2008 for $280. With the brackets I'd be less than $500 in front and rear disc brakes. He is a picture of the brackets. No one has chimed in on that video or the general concept so I'd like to hear concerns of the setup as well. My worst fear is the bracket failing but it looks pretty think and I have some friends in metal fabrication so I plan to run the idea by them before I just pull the trigger and see if they could add some strength to be on the safe side. Thanks again for helping educate me on brakes.