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RAIDERS!!!!

we had our share of bombs/bums too

Marijuanavich (Todd Marinovich) 1991 1st rd pick from USC
burned out :bananaweed: literally in 2 years
Los Angeles Raiders QB Todd Marinovich 1991 1st round draft pisk.jpg
 
I’m right there with you on why the hell the Dallas Cowboys were ever given that moniker of America’s Team. It rubs me raw every time I hear an announcer or anyone say it. What possesses anyone to think they deserve it - and frankly I’ll wager Texans don’t even know either save the fact that someone once said it - probably during an early SB week and it undeservedly stuck in their happy pants.

And no offense Ron - but while I know you revere the Packers history etc - and who wouldn’t - but I don’t think they deserve it either. To me baseball and football are America’s games and sports fabric. Every fan in every flea bag little town across this great country deserves to feel their team is America’s Team - no one team deserves to be called that. It’s for every little kid on up to us salty old timers to revere our team as a part of Americana and it’s fabric of pro sports. We’re all a piece of America and so are our teams.
Well dag burn it GetX’d (this was what Hoss would say when he was really peeved) ya make me feel like a rat’s rectum, lol. You’re absolutely 100% RIGHT! All ya need do is see the fans praying, hoping, and hopping for their team will win. I say “Wish ya all the best, except when playing the Packers or Brewers”. We all get our turn in the barrel of suck-ness…I just recall how many Packer/Brewer games I watched when we got smashed. And my dear departed mother was a rabid Cubby fan as she was from Chicago though became a Packer/Brewer fan too after living in WI for her last 70 years. But a slight lean she had for Chicago. Anyway – all her years pulling for her Cubs to make the WS and go friggin figure...they made it…a few months after she passed!

Might be interesting if Dallas comes to GB for the playoffs with Coach McCarthy after he gained us so many great seasons and has a street in GB named after him. Thought he was always a class act and will be in Anyway, you’re spot on about America’s team(s).
 
I guess you can say that if you’re just talking appearances. Because Hank Stram and the Chiefs pounded my Vikes in 72. Heartbreaking partly because if I remember correctly the Vikes were favored by 2 touchdowns (which I know doesn’t sound right). But none the less lost by more than that 23-7. So you were dry for a while. But at least you had that one and now the recent great success and a absolute rock star in a QB and offensive surrounding cast. Need to work on defense - but the offense is fun To watch. Mahomes and Co have transformed me into a secondary Chiefs fan. I’m always up for watching a Chiefs game.
I totally agree we haven't had it on both sides of the ball since the 1st 5 years of the NFL. If we had schottenheimers defense now they would be unbelievable.
 
When you guys think of hard hitting running backs what's the first name that comes to mind?
 
He could have been a HOF quarterback if he could have just put the peace pipe down.
yeah his/Tod's dad,
was Earl Woods before there was a Tiger
or 'The Williams sisters' Serina & Venus, in pro-tennis's type dad too
They treated his/their kid/s in the same manner,
"no fun life, just the sport & hard work constantly"
he/they had no life outside of football/tennis/Golf (Like Tiger)
Tod he resented it & fucked up big time, blew it (or puffed it up)
threw it all away...
But;
he's a surfer dude now & content with his life
it makes him happy, but what a waste of talent...

What he could have been & could have had today :BangHead:

I guess we'd never know unless we were in their shoes
 
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When you guys think of hard hitting running backs what's the first name that comes to mind?
Earl Cambell, he literally ran over people all the time
Larry Csonka
John Riggins
Marv VanEegan (spell)
Tom Rathman
Adrian Petterson
Christian Okoye
Bo Jackson, I remember him running over the Bozz very well
Derrick Henry, maybe today or when he's not hurt
 
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Well dag burn it GetX’d (this was what Hoss would say when he was really peeved) ya make me feel like a rat’s rectum, lol. You’re absolutely 100% RIGHT! All ya need do is see the fans praying, hoping, and hopping for their team will win. I say “Wish ya all the best, except when playing the Packers or Brewers”. We all get our turn in the barrel of suck-ness…I just recall how many Packer/Brewer games I watched when we got smashed. And my dear departed mother was a rabid Cubby fan as she was from Chicago though became a Packer/Brewer fan too after living in WI for her last 70 years. But a slight lean she had for Chicago. Anyway – all her years pulling for her Cubs to make the WS and go friggin figure...they made it…a few months after she passed!

The story of your mother brings up another memory for me. My younger brother always lived a troubled life but as such we were always very close being 2 years apart and close in friendship as well. He was an absolute died in the wool Twins fan. No matter how bad, drab or long the losing streak in terms of years he was always right there as their No 1 fan. He would get the hair up on the back of his neck if you every talked badly of the Twins. Well I remember in every detail their 1-0 loss to Sandy Koufax and the Dodgers in the 7th game of the 65 series handing us a bitter WS loss. The Twins, like the Vikings were great back in the 60’s but always seem to lose out on the pennant to Baltimore. In 65 we had it all and we’re favored to win - and as history reminds us we didn’t. So back to my brother and his rabid loyalty to them no matter the length of the drought. Well in 87 his troubles got much worse and he ultimately passed in July 87 at only 31 yo. In 86 the Twins were as far down as you could get - In 87 they came out of nowhere and tore up the baseball world. The Sports Illustrated title was “From worst to First”. They took the Braves down in 7 in the WS. Well as you noted about your mother - sadly my brother never lived to see that miracle happen. So that winter - as I always did I came back to MN for Christmas. Then one bitter cold windy day I went to the cemetery with a hammer, ice pic and a World Series Champions pennant in hand and pounded a hole into the ice and frozen ground next to his grave stone and drove that pennant into the ground. To me it was as if he channeled the Twins victory from above and after all these years got what he/we always wanted. A World Series Championship. They repeated again in 91 and thus became legit. Sorry he never lived to see those victories - but something tells me he may have had a hand in them.

Might be interesting if Dallas comes to GB for the playoffs with Coach McCarthy after he gained us so many great seasons and has a street in GB named after him. Thought he was always a class act and will be in Anyway, you’re spot on about America’s team(s).
 
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. I won’t disagree with that but Brandon Staley made terrible calls as a head coach.

That guy IMO, has to be one of the worst coaches in the league with his decision in this game and the chiefs games. How he wasn't fired right after the game???? Idiot x 1000
 
He could have been a HOF quarterback if he could have just put the peace pipe down.

Seems to me it was more than a doobie overdose - I believe he was on some much heavier duty stuff. The likes of coke and meth. You don’t go to perpetual rehab for Maryjane ……
 
Seems to me it was more than a doobie overdose - I believe he was on some much heavier duty stuff. The likes of coke and meth. You don’t go to perpetual rehab for Maryjane ……
I'm sure you're right, I watched the documentary on him a few years back but couldn't remember all the details.
 
What I am seeing...... is out of all the NFL teams.
Who gets their own thread on B bodies only ?

Yeh , it's the Raiders !
:luvplace:
 
Had the chance to chat with him for a brief minute at a place called Flora-Bama, remember he was even a bigger guy in person than how he appeared to me on TV. Legendary guy.
I know that place well. It literally straddles the Alabama/Florida line and it’s just off the beach.
 
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