What's it Worth Looking to buy this Super Bee... would appreciate input.

[Lefty71]

Says original 383, not "numbers matching".... subject to interpretation maybe? Would not trust this dealer, id look.

 

[DeltaV]

For posterity:

VIN: WM23H9A311712

***
Gateway Classic Cars Of Louisville is proud to digitally present this Impressive 1969 Dodge Super Bee.


Introducing the 1969 Dodge Super Bee. This beautiful restored Super Bee has only been driven 1000 miles since completed. The correct paint was ordered from the factory with a stripe delete making this one of the rarest Super Bees out there. Verified by the build sheet. This car maintains its original 383 under the hood freshly rebuilt giving this bee its superpower. All of the trim on the car was redone as well and looks amazing. The underneath of the car is nicer than when it left the line, showing the attention to detail on the restoration is of the highest quality. The mag style wheels are wrapped in radial tires. The interior has been done in factory-correct green cloth and vinyl just like it left the assembly line.

Under the hood, the 1969 Dodge Super Bee is powered by a formidable 383 Magnum V8 engine, delivering robust performance and an exhilarating driving experience. Paired with a 727 3 Speed automatic transmission, this car offers smooth and responsive handling, making it a joy to drive on both city streets and open highways.

Safety is a priority in this classic muscle car, with seatbelts included to provide peace of mind for both the driver and passengers. The combination of these features makes the 1969 Dodge Super Bee not only a powerful and stylish vehicle but also a practical choice for those who appreciate the blend of performance and classic design.

Experience the thrill and nostalgia of driving a true American classic with the 1969 Dodge Super Bee. This car is a testament to the golden era of muscle cars, offering a unique blend of power, style, and comfort that is sure to impress any automotive enthusiast.

Title is clean and clear and ready to be transferred into your name now. Don't miss out on the opportunity to own this incredible 1969 Dodge Super Bee with its impressive list of features and timeless design. Experience a great blend of classic style and modern convenience with this exceptional vehicle. This Super Bee is offered by our Louisville Showroom and can be seen in greater detail including 100+ HD pictures and an HD video at www.GatewayClassicCars.com. For additional information please call our knowledgeable staff at (812) 294-1555.

 

[DeltaV]

Additional discussion from late last year:


Thread 'Anyone in the 'Falls City/Derby City' area know this car? Can check on this car?' Anyone in the 'Falls City/Derby City' area know this car? Can check on this car?

 

[68BabyBlue]

I think there is very good advice above.

I think the price is probably high. You need to look at it.

Get really clear on what you want and what’s it for. As an example, I don’t want a highly optioned car, and prefer the column shift. And I understand that likely hurts resale, but I don’t care about that.

Not knowing the car’s history is a huge negative for me, and the guy you are speaking with is untrustworthy and untruthful, IMO.

I've owned seven GTXs in the last 48 years, starting with a daily driver I bought for $1500, and finishing off with a near concours specimen I chased for five decades. They were all over the board in terms of condition, options, and pricing. But they all had one thing in common - I had the complete history back to the original owner with all but one. That car had been repossessed, but I still had the name of the selling dealership.

Only one of the cars was purchased from a dealer. In that case, it was a high end GM collector who was using the dealership as a tax shelter for his collection. The GTX he sold me was a one owner car from a guy in his neighborhood, and I got the full history as part of the deal.

None of these were cheap, but I had no buyer's remorse, and no surprises with any of them, with an average ownership of seven years. In each case, I sold the car when a better one came along. Seven years is a long time to wait for a deal, but that's how long it took for me (limiting myself to 68-69 GTXs exclusively.) Nice B bodies at a fair price have been scarce for a long time.

I became an attorney in 1983, and as a result of my training, chain of title was always the determining factor in whether I considered buying a car.

 

[WileE]

I've seen enough of them to be suspect of anything Gateway is selling. Jump on a bus or plane, go look at it. Take a fridge magnet with you...

^^^ Unless YOUR eyes, or an expert you trust, has inspected this car... do not pony up a dollar.

 

[MikeyM]

Wow.. Just.. wow. Thanks everyone. I figured it would need some work and, if I were to move forward, would certainly ask far less than they're asking simply based on the rust and lower radiator, body stuff that I see. But I didn't catch the backwards bee thing so thanks for that. Since I'm in NorCal, I would have flown out or contacted Lemon Squad to help out - any feedback on them? Worth it? I'm definitely leaning towards flying out to see a car so I can get my own idea of how it drives and especially listen to it.

Squirrel, I didn't know the rockers were assembled like that so thanks for pointing that out. Yea, you guys are spot on. Too many potential unknowns to pay that kind of money so I think this one is a pass.

I don't want nor need a perfect car, numbers matching, but what I WOULD like is a great body in 8+ out of 10 shape. Heck I don't even mind a few minor dings here and there. Kinda gives it character, to me. I can do major engine, trans, diffy, electrical work, etc. and do it pretty well but since body work is the most expensive part, I would like for that part to be done or mostly done...... if possible. This car will be my daily driver (I don't drive much and we use other cars for that) so I'm ok with doing what it takes to bring up the reliability aspect, etc. We did the same thing with our '73 Westy we currently have. The main goal is simply to have a nice looking (not perfect) driver that I can bring into the modern age, take on long trips if we want, with things like OD trans, disc brakes, AC, stuff like that. And it's cool if I have to add all that, I just want a good starting point. I think I mentioned this in another post but not a restomod, just sort of. But looking mostly stock. Hell, we were going to go the route of buying a 2-4 year old 3/4 ton truck as my DD and to tow a trailer but you can't touch one with 50k miles or under for less than 55k+. But, as life turns out, circumstances changed so the wife unit and I changed plans to use that money towards this type of car.

Anyway, damn.. I wish I could get all you guys on a conference call but I suppose the forums will have to do . If you know of any '69 Bees please let me know.

Thanks again for talking me off the ledge. Really appreciate it.

Mikey

 

[Billccm]

I really like it and posted a thread awhile back for opinions. The feedback from the experts here hasn't changed since that post.

I contacted gateway and got very little information. I've noticed they dropped the price since then. I'm continuing to watch it.

Let us know what you decide.

 

[MikeyM]

Bill,

Same here. I dealt with a nice guy but too many unknowns, I'm thinking. If I had a guarantee there was no rust on the 1/4 panels and he actually had paperwork of what was done, it might be a different story. We'll see how it goes.

At any rate, there are 2 others I'm looking at that are being sold by private parties and they're about 7-8k higher. But those are ram charger hoods.. which I really like. Both of them, from my short, initial, conversations with the sellers, seem to be numbers matching cars, both "restored" but at this point I'm not sure to what level or when. I will continue to chase that down.

Thanks,
Mikey

 

[icetech]

Looks nice, money has been spent, frame and floor look good..... but it's a perfumed pig..
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for 56k? no way.. never.... if they left that seam area like that i wouldn't trust anything else on the car, the bottom of that rocker looks like it's made of filler also, it's just too straight/perfect... BUT.. even my POS car i cut every bit of rust out and replaced it and i'm a caveman.

 

[hunt2elk]

I sold a 69 Charger a few years ago and the buyer was from California. He didn't want to make the trip himself to inspect even though it was quite an expensive car. He hired the Lemon Squad. The guy who came out was very decent. We took the car for a ride, I put it on my hoist, and he took a lot of pics. I was very satisfied with them even as the seller who didn't hire him. His report helped me sell the car. I wouldn't hesitate using them as a buyer.

 

[DeltaV]

For posterity:

VIN: WM23H9A311712

View attachment 1871743

***
Gateway Classic Cars Of Louisville is proud to digitally present this Impressive 1969 Dodge Super Bee.


Introducing the 1969 Dodge Super Bee. This beautiful restored Super Bee has only been driven 1000 miles since completed. The correct paint was ordered from the factory with a stripe delete making this one of the rarest Super Bees out there. Verified by the build sheet. This car maintains its original 383 under the hood freshly rebuilt giving this bee its superpower. All of the trim on the car was redone as well and looks amazing. The underneath of the car is nicer than when it left the line, showing the attention to detail on the restoration is of the highest quality. The mag style wheels are wrapped in radial tires. The interior has been done in factory-correct green cloth and vinyl just like it left the assembly line.

Under the hood, the 1969 Dodge Super Bee is powered by a formidable 383 Magnum V8 engine, delivering robust performance and an exhilarating driving experience. Paired with a 727 3 Speed automatic transmission, this car offers smooth and responsive handling, making it a joy to drive on both city streets and open highways.

Safety is a priority in this classic muscle car, with seatbelts included to provide peace of mind for both the driver and passengers. The combination of these features makes the 1969 Dodge Super Bee not only a powerful and stylish vehicle but also a practical choice for those who appreciate the blend of performance and classic design.

Experience the thrill and nostalgia of driving a true American classic with the 1969 Dodge Super Bee. This car is a testament to the golden era of muscle cars, offering a unique blend of power, style, and comfort that is sure to impress any automotive enthusiast.

Title is clean and clear and ready to be transferred into your name now. Don't miss out on the opportunity to own this incredible 1969 Dodge Super Bee with its impressive list of features and timeless design. Experience a great blend of classic style and modern convenience with this exceptional vehicle. This Super Bee is offered by our Louisville Showroom and can be seen in greater detail including 100+ HD pictures and an HD video at www.GatewayClassicCars.com. For additional information please call our knowledgeable staff at (812) 294-1555.

MORE FOR POSTERITY:

IT HAS A BRANDED TITLE

NEW VIN: GCCLOU3093

Unknown Title​

This listing has an unknown title, please contact the seller for more details.

State regulations for title brands vary, so we recommend investigating and confirming vehicle history prior to purchase.

 

[icetech]

Have never heard of a branded title.. any weird title stuff and i run away...

And to the OP... i knew the rule for 30 years.. if you can't see it in person.. don't buy it.... my current car i bought from pics and got royally screwed.. very strategic pics.. i paid bout double what i should have. and will never not be mad bout it

 

[DeltaV]

Have never heard of a branded title

A branded title can be for any number of reasons. For example:

Flood loss
Fire loss
Theft/Recovery loss
etc.

 

[MikeyM]

DeltaV - thank you for pointing that out. I didn't catch that nor knew what it meant.

icetech - great advices, as others have mentioned, thanks.

As for using Lemon Squad, they seem to get a favorable rep from what I have learned. My first choice would be to fly out, bring the wife unit, and make a couple day trip out of it. If anything else, to see a car and check out an area we've, likely, never seen.

All great info. Thanks again.

 

[Charged440]

The cardboard and tape on the fan shroud makes it a hard pass.

 

[icetech]

A branded title can be for any number of reasons. For example:

Flood loss
Fire loss
Theft/Recovery loss
etc.

ahh.. basically a salvage/rebuild title...

 

[icetech]

Mikey, just curious.. is there a sentimental reason for wanting that particular car? i would think for 50kish you could find some pretty nice stuff.. if you don't need concours/numbers matching at least

 

[Billccm]

DeltaV - thank you for pointing that out. I didn't catch that nor knew what it meant.

icetech - great advices, as others have mentioned, thanks.

As for using Lemon Squad, they seem to get a favorable rep from what I have learned. My first choice would be to fly out, bring the wife unit, and make a couple day trip out of it. If anything else, to see a car and check out an area we've, likely, never seen.

All great info. Thanks again.

I'm a native of Louisville Kentucky and if you do fly out I can recommend some tourist attractions.

 

[dadsbee]

for 56k? no way.. never.... if they left that seam area like that i wouldn't trust anything else on the car, the bottom of that rocker looks like it's made of filler also, it's just too straight/perfect... BUT.. even my POS car i cut every bit of rust out and replaced it and i'm a caveman.

Did ya miss the part about it being a perfumed pig....

 

[icetech]

Did ya miss the part about it being a perfumed pig....

Nope.. i saw it.. just wanted to say it also Sometimes people need more than 1person to tell them things.