71 hemi charger restoration. Pikes peak raced hemi car

[Ron Kirkpatrick]

working on my 71 hemi charger It was taken off showroom floor. Modified and raced as hill climb car.

 

[ckessel]

Nice! Some serious Swiss cheesing going on with that k-frame.

 

[Ron Kirkpatrick]

Nice! Some serious Swiss cheesing going on with that k-frame.

That’s how they did it. Guy that built it was in nascar

 

[j-c-c-62]

Nice! Some serious Swiss cheesing going on with that k-frame.

Nobody today in their right mind would Swiss cheese a TB K member like that on a full body road race car.
I will admit it showed commitment, albeit misplaced.
I like the project.

 

[Bee1971]

So what’s your plan on the finished project - Details

 

[#41]

Interesting. I see an 8-3/4 axle... so this car was an automatic and raced as such?

Glad to see you are restoring it to as-raced condition instead of something else. Very cool project.

 

[chargervert]

They probably swapped out the Dana 60 for an 8 3/4 so gear ratios could be easily changed.

 

[Ron Kirkpatrick]

Interesting. I see an 8-3/4 axle... so this car was an automatic and raced as such?

Glad to see you are restoring it to as-raced condition instead of something else. Very cool project.

It was a Dana car. It was swapped because it’s lighter and not taking off like a drag car

 

[Ron Kirkpatrick]

Nobody today in their right mind would Swiss cheese a TB K member like that on a full body road race car.
I will admit it showed commitment, albeit misplaced.
I like the project.

The k frame is welded in place. It’s plenty strong. The guy worked for harry hyde and pettys. That’s how things were done. I also got the nascar blue prints

 

[Lefty71]

Nobody today in their right mind would Swiss cheese a TB K member like that on a

Our mentality is that parts need to last. The racers mentality is that it needs to perform better than everyone else, and needs to last THRU THE RACE.

 

[j-c-c-62]

The k frame is welded in place. It’s plenty strong. The guy worked for harry hyde and pettys. That’s how things were done. I also got the nascar blue prints

We disagree.
Got any pics or share proof/prints of an actual on track Hyde or Petty asphalt Cup car with a Swiss cheese K member?
Remember, these are the cars that many seek to duplicate with their 11/16" TR's and reinforced LCA's.
A K member is an integral part of the stiffness of the front chassis stiffness and on a TB car it is tasked with the full weight of the front of the car and a lot of the cornering loads besides often supporting most of heaviest single item of a car, the engine. Weakening it by severe lightening seems is rather counterproductive for a cup car, or even a one-time 12? mile hill climb car.

 

[j-c-c-62]

Our mentality is that parts need to last. The racers mentality is that it needs to perform better than everyone else, and needs to last THRU THE RACE.

They must also perform, and a Swiss cheese K member on an Asphalt rubbing is racing Cup car is an Oxymoron.
I don't remember the Petty's ever tackling Pike's Peak, not sure about Hyde.

 

[j-c-c-62]

It was a Dana car. It was swapped because it’s lighter and not taking off like a drag car

I have never seen Dana's 60 in Mopar's used in any upper rung professional closed-circuit racing in the US. The car here was raced likely on the cusp all cars converting to Ford 9" for ease of ratio changes as noted and better reliability at high Hp/use vs the mopar 8.75"

 

[chargervert]

I have never seen Dana's 60 in Mopar's used in any upper rung professional closed-circuit racing in the US. The car here was raced likely on the cusp all cars converting to Ford 9" for ease of ratio changes as noted and better reliability at high Hp/use vs the mopar 8.75"

Back in 1971 people weren't swapping in 9 inch Ford rear axles into other brands of cars like you see today,the Chrysler 8 3/4 rear axle would have been the obvious choice back then. My friend landspeed races them at over 200 MPH for 5 mile runs and they hold up just fine with 1000 horsepower.

 

[Mopar Miki]

JCC show us your hillclimb car or just show us something cool you are driving rather than your drivel and more...drivel The owner of the very cool car does not have to prove anything to you

 

[j-c-c-62]

JCC show us your hillclimb car or just show us something cool you are driving rather than your drivel and more...drivel The owner of the very cool car does not have to prove anything to you

I agree, but my bet is because it can't.
And don't put words into my mouth, I already stated here my feelings on the project.
My "drivel" has yet to be shown incorrect.
Funny how these personal attacks NEVER use a recent quote to back up their claims.
It's OK, some people just can't stand to face their shortcomings, I'm use to it.

 

[autoxcuda]

The car is what it is.

I give hats off to the owner that's taking it back to as raced form.

 

[j-c-c-62]

"The car here was raced likely on the cusp all cars converting to Ford 9"...................."

Back in 1971 people weren't swapping in 9 inch Ford rear axles into other brands of cars like you see today,the Chrysler 8 3/4 rear axle would have been the obvious choice back then. My friend landspeed races them at over 200 MPH for 5 mile runs and they hold up just fine with 1000 horsepower.

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No, it wasn't the obvious choice, it was the only brand loyal choice, also being that a Ford 9" in a mopar had a stigma attached.
In building the 1973 cars the mopar crowd did wake up one morning and decide to ditch the 8.75 to see if the ford 9" was a better solution.

 

[autoxcuda]

When and where 8 3/4's were used and technical opinions of the original build aren't really part of this thread.

 

[#41]

It was a Dana car. It was swapped because it’s lighter and not taking off like a drag car

Thank you. I asked out of the curiosity that it had been raced with a 727, which would have been unusual.

Would love to see more photos as the project progresses.