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I admit it - I've slacked some on routine maintenance stuff on Fred's well-worn 440, specifically the electronic ignition.
I managed to actually flood (!) him yesterday on initial start-up, something that's hard to do when the choke is actually
disconnected (hey, I got talent!), so today I decide it's past time to investigate some ignition timing "irregularities" I've noticed
recently....it's been forever since I've flooded a car.
Hell, I don't even remember EVER doing it before...but it spurred me on to get some maintenance done to Fred, something I
have neglected for a handful of years now.
First was making sure he still ran, so I cranked him up 24 hours after "the great flood" and he popped right off (no throttle, just
turned the key) with a great puff of black smoke out the tailpipes; he obviously was holding a grudge for yesterday.
Next, I decided to put in a fresh set of coveted (and long discontinued) J11Y Champions, gapped at .035 as stock.
Point of curiosity #1: Yes, the plugs were quite sooty from the flooding - but they were also exhibiting signs of actual
blistering. What the heck? Those are the stock application plugs, same ones I've always ran in any near-stock 440 I've owned
and I've never seen that before. Possible causes? Concerns?
His ignition is a Mopar electronic ignition setup, capped off with an old school Accel tan heavy walled, brass connector cap and
a set of MSD red cut-to-length resistance type wires; I've still got the little tool for trimming and crimping, just don't remember
how to do it - which came to relevance when I discovered the #7 wires' terminal had been disconnected for some time inside
the boot, leaving charring from jumping the gap in there and some actual rust on the plug tip and wire terminal.
It was hell separating boot from wire as well - wonder if even using the 45* boot didn't give adequate clearance from the header?
The terminal is not salvageable, so...
Point of curiosity #2: Anybody got a nice long spark plug wire they could sell me for Fred's cause?
I've got the old one cobbled on there now, but it ain't gonna hold.
How many years is reasonable to expect from a set of wires, anyways?
Point of curiosity #3: I cleaned up the terminals in the distributor cap and on the rotor with a dremel/wire brush combo.
In doing so, I noticed the cap had a small chunk missing, right where the locating notch is on the mounting edge - and thus
appearing to possibly allow the cap to rotate (within the limits of the retaining clips) on the distributor housing (!).
What the heck? Should I just pass that off as a manufacturing weakness?
I mean, it's really obvious when the cap gets located on the locating tang on the distributor and I surely hope I can manage to
apply the retaining clips correctly on a distributor cap at this point in life...
Finally, the rest of the setup is the usual "old school" orange control box and an MSD Blaster 2 coil, along with a ballast resistor...
and I'm thinking I want that coil outta there at this point, given the looks of the plugs.
I have a nice Accel Super Coil as well as a stock coil to choose from if I do.
The old worn out Edelbrock 750 that's been on the engine since I bought it back in 2017 is a whole 'nother subject that I'll have
to address some other time (right after a lottery win, perhaps), but these discoveries today kind of bug me - mostly because I
now feel a bit of a slacker in looking after Fred's basic needs, what with all the other more major work done over the years....
In any event, I need to locate:
1. A good quality distributor cap (I love the Accels, but they're like $60 now!)
2. A replacement #7 spark plug wire (don't want to toss out the rest of the set, which is in great shape)
I managed to actually flood (!) him yesterday on initial start-up, something that's hard to do when the choke is actually
disconnected (hey, I got talent!), so today I decide it's past time to investigate some ignition timing "irregularities" I've noticed
recently....it's been forever since I've flooded a car.
Hell, I don't even remember EVER doing it before...but it spurred me on to get some maintenance done to Fred, something I
have neglected for a handful of years now.
First was making sure he still ran, so I cranked him up 24 hours after "the great flood" and he popped right off (no throttle, just
turned the key) with a great puff of black smoke out the tailpipes; he obviously was holding a grudge for yesterday.
Next, I decided to put in a fresh set of coveted (and long discontinued) J11Y Champions, gapped at .035 as stock.
Point of curiosity #1: Yes, the plugs were quite sooty from the flooding - but they were also exhibiting signs of actual
blistering. What the heck? Those are the stock application plugs, same ones I've always ran in any near-stock 440 I've owned
and I've never seen that before. Possible causes? Concerns?
His ignition is a Mopar electronic ignition setup, capped off with an old school Accel tan heavy walled, brass connector cap and
a set of MSD red cut-to-length resistance type wires; I've still got the little tool for trimming and crimping, just don't remember
how to do it - which came to relevance when I discovered the #7 wires' terminal had been disconnected for some time inside
the boot, leaving charring from jumping the gap in there and some actual rust on the plug tip and wire terminal.
It was hell separating boot from wire as well - wonder if even using the 45* boot didn't give adequate clearance from the header?
The terminal is not salvageable, so...
Point of curiosity #2: Anybody got a nice long spark plug wire they could sell me for Fred's cause?
I've got the old one cobbled on there now, but it ain't gonna hold.
How many years is reasonable to expect from a set of wires, anyways?
Point of curiosity #3: I cleaned up the terminals in the distributor cap and on the rotor with a dremel/wire brush combo.
In doing so, I noticed the cap had a small chunk missing, right where the locating notch is on the mounting edge - and thus
appearing to possibly allow the cap to rotate (within the limits of the retaining clips) on the distributor housing (!).
What the heck? Should I just pass that off as a manufacturing weakness?
I mean, it's really obvious when the cap gets located on the locating tang on the distributor and I surely hope I can manage to
apply the retaining clips correctly on a distributor cap at this point in life...
Finally, the rest of the setup is the usual "old school" orange control box and an MSD Blaster 2 coil, along with a ballast resistor...
and I'm thinking I want that coil outta there at this point, given the looks of the plugs.
I have a nice Accel Super Coil as well as a stock coil to choose from if I do.
The old worn out Edelbrock 750 that's been on the engine since I bought it back in 2017 is a whole 'nother subject that I'll have
to address some other time (right after a lottery win, perhaps), but these discoveries today kind of bug me - mostly because I
now feel a bit of a slacker in looking after Fred's basic needs, what with all the other more major work done over the years....
In any event, I need to locate:
1. A good quality distributor cap (I love the Accels, but they're like $60 now!)
2. A replacement #7 spark plug wire (don't want to toss out the rest of the set, which is in great shape)