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Floor sheet metal?

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I have a ‘79 Magnum & the floor is getting g a bit eaten up.
Can I use a floor from an earlier car?
Is a ‘73/‘74 charger the same or workable
Does anyone make this?
 
I’m going to go out on a limb here based on the unavailability of parts for my 74 and say no you’re not going to find any floor pans. I did find floor pans for my 74, but that was the only metal you can get for a 74. I’m thinking you won’t find any metal for a 79, but I could be wrong. As far as interchangeable with 73/74 I can’t help you there.
 
I had a friend that lived in Arizona for quite awhile, and brought several of B and C bodies
back from there, and delivered them to Murray Park in Tiffin, Ohio. Some cars were whole, and some were cut up. I would be very surprised if he didn't have a nice whole Floorplan. You can Google his information. It's been along time since I have been at his place! Good luck, and I hope you find it.
 
IMO the 71-74 floor pan should be "close enough".

Look closely at the seat track mounting points, the rear seatbelt mounting points, and whether or not you have hump for a cat.

Hopefully any differences can be cut out and grafted in.
 
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i used a 3rd generation charger floor that i found on Craigslist about 5 years ago for cheap to fix both passenger and drivers side lower areas of my 78 magnum. As the rest of the floor was ok. Not a perfect match .but close enough for me. And w ay better than a flat metal patch.
 
View attachment 1984530i used a 3rd generation charger floor that i found on Craigslist about 5 years ago for cheap to fix both passenger and drivers side lower areas of my 78 magnum. As the rest of the floor was ok. Not a perfect match .but close enough for me. And w ay better than a flat metal patch.

...and you put in a 4 speed!
 
IMO the 71-74 floor pan should be "close enough".

Look closely at the seat track mounting points, the rear seatbelt mounting points, and whether or not you have hump for a cat.

Hopefully any differences can be cut out and grafted in.
Thanks. No cat(s) involved.
No floor humps for cats ether.
5.9 Magnum engine, Hooker Super Comp headers @1-3/4 into a custom exhaust and use of flowmaster B body tail pipes all at 2-1/2 inches.
...and you put in a 4 speed!
Thats my plan as well. I want to use the Chrysler A833-OD with my 3.55’s. Speed isn’t the chase here, though it will have some bolt on parts and a small cam in the 5.9 Magnum engine.

I love driving this car. I’ve been up and down the eastern seaboard nearly a dozen times with it.
 
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I'm very curious as to how the nearly granny first works with the 3.55.
 
I'm very curious as to how the nearly granny first works with the 3.55.
It’s just the math that looks attractive.
“Hot Rodders” & racers tend to like a combined 1st gear ratio of 10:1.
While off hand the trucks 833OD is something I can’t remember at the moment, we’ll use a 3.00 first gear ratio for the math.

Now the math;

3.00X3.55=10.65
3.23X3.23=10.433
3.00X2.97=8.91

10.65 being a little overboard. I can live with that. Getting a lower numerical ratio has an effect while in OD. More on that later, below.

2nd & 3rd or normal ratios for the year(s) of the era. Which I can’t recall at the moment.

Overdrive for the truck transmission I have is .71, a slight difference from other OD 833’s. Minor but worth the calculation.

3.55X.71=2.521
3.23X.71=2.293
2.97X.71=2.109

As you can see, a 2.52 final drive ratio is just fine for the interstate Hwy. going lower than a 3.55 with the 27.5” tires will have the engine turning very low. Great to a degree. Sipping gas slower than a camel goes through water is an awesome thing.

Not what I’m after. A small cam will be added to the 5.9. Howard’s Hyd, 220@050 On a 108 w/.540 lift.

While many point to the big drop as a “Problem”, I’d agree it’s not what you want for any type of racing, mild or otherwise all out.

What it is I’m after is a little better get up and go from the stop and the ability to cruise the Hwy at a reasonable rpm at speed.

The “BIG” drop from 1st to 2nd is something I’m very familiar with as I had a 318 Duster with 3.23’s and the 3spd transmission that also had the low first gear. For me, it is NOT a big thing to produce the extra rpm’s to make a second gear change into a good useful range.

My tires? I looked inside the door jamb to see what the OEM spec tire was. It said FR-78. After some Internet searching around on the various tire sizes available and the diameter of the FR-78, the closest tire I could find to the listed diameter was a 275/60/15.

Now with a gain of salt of what the Internet listed as the tire diameter and what’s available to match, I ended up with Cooper Cobras front and rear. Fronts being slightly different at 235/70/25, a slight bit smaller.

The real thing YOUR after is speedometer readings.
All readings if not dead on are within 1-1-1/2 mph, speed dependent.
This was measured against the phones gps and local traffic speed alert signs.
The revised cluster contains Autometer Z series gauges.

This car is an electrical disaster FWIW.

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Below is the Howard’s cam. A HFT that I have hanging around that I might as well use since I bought it and find no real reason to re spend money on a roller cam.

It’s an LA cam, so lift values are calculated on a 1.5 rocker where the Magnum head uses a 1.6 rocker.

Sure! You can argue all you want and point to a number of things, but it’s what got and what I’m going to use.

Flame on, IDGAF.

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Thanks. No cat(s) involved.
No floor humps for cats ether.
5.9 Magnum engine, Hooker Super Comp headers @1-3/4 into a custom exhaust and use of flowmaster B body tail pipes all at 2-1/2 inches.

Thats my plan as well. I want to use the Chrysler A833-OD with my 3.55’s. Speed isn’t the chase here, though it will have some bolt on parts and a small cam in the 5.9 Magnum engine.

I love driving this car. I’ve been up and down the eastern seaboard nearly a dozen times with it.
I have the a833 Overdrive as well, and 3:55's in the 9.25 suregrip diff. Behind a 400 cui.
 
I'm very curious as to how the nearly granny first works with the 3.55.

It’s just the math that looks attractive.
“Hot Rodders” & racers tend to like a combined 1st gear ratio of 10:1.
While off hand the trucks 833OD is something I can’t remember at the moment, we’ll use a 3.00 first gear ratio for the math.

Now the math;

3.00X3.55=10.65
3.23X3.23=10.433
3.00X2.97=8.91

10.65 being a little overboard. I can live with that. Getting a lower numerical ratio has an effect while in OD. More on that later, below.

2nd & 3rd or normal ratios for the year(s) of the era. Which I can’t recall at the moment.

Overdrive for the truck transmission I have is .71, a slight difference from other OD 833’s. Minor but worth the calculation.

3.55X.71=2.521
3.23X.71=2.293
2.97X.71=2.109

As you can see, a 2.52 final drive ratio is just fine for the interstate Hwy. going lower than a 3.55 with the 27.5” tires will have the engine turning very low. Great to a degree. Sipping gas slower than a camel goes through water is an awesome thing.

Not what I’m after. A small cam will be added to the 5.9. Howard’s Hyd, 220@050 On a 108 w/.540 lift.

While many point to the big drop as a “Problem”, I’d agree it’s not what you want for any type of racing, mild or otherwise all out.

What it is I’m after is a little better get up and go from the stop and the ability to cruise the Hwy at a reasonable rpm at speed.

The “BIG” drop from 1st to 2nd is something I’m very familiar with as I had a 318 Duster with 3.23’s and the 3spd transmission that also had the low first gear. For me, it is NOT a big thing to produce the extra rpm’s to make a second gear change into a good useful range.

My tires? I looked inside the door jamb to see what the OEM spec tire was. It said FR-78. After some Internet searching around on the various tire sizes available and the diameter of the FR-78, the closest tire I could find to the listed diameter was a 275/60/15.

Now with a gain of salt of what the Internet listed as the tire diameter and what’s available to match, I ended up with Cooper Cobras front and rear. Fronts being slightly different at 235/70/25, a slight bit smaller.

The real thing YOUR after is speedometer readings.
All readings if not dead on are within 1-1-1/2 mph, speed dependent.
This was measured against the phones gps and local traffic speed alert signs.
The revised cluster contains Autometer Z series gauges.

This car is an electrical disaster FWIW.

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I am also going to replace my 833 with a 833OD unit. I settled on 3:55 as well. All the calculators I ran put me at around 30 mph in 1st gear. That’s definitely doable.



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I have the a833 Overdrive as well, and 3:55's in the 9.25 suregrip diff. Behind a 400 cui.
My rear is the 9-1/4. I grabbed it out of a ‘78 Cordoba with a P code 400. I ran it in the Magnum for a little bit with the 727 and then 3.23 gears. It was OK at best. The rear gave up the ghost by surprise one day and the 3.55’s were the planned upgrade. I actually already had the gear set.

I still have the 400 block for the future going into the Magnum.

What did you do for a bell housing??
I am also going to replace my 833 with a 833OD unit. I settled on 3:55 as well. All the calculators I ran put me at around 30 mph in 1st gear. That’s definitely doable.



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Can you post a link to that calc?
I’d like to adjust it for the 27.5 tire size. See where I’m at.

I don’t think I’ll need to get to 4K.
 
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