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400 magnum any good?

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Was just reading the crate engine thread. Not wanting to hi-jack the mans thread it brought a question to mind. Are the 400's worth anything? I have one in a 73 charger that looks untouched. Still turns and is a 4bbl. I assume it is a 400 magnum as it has the HP style exhaust manifolds. I dont know much about the later engines. Wasn't planning on doing anything with it so was curious weather to pull it out and store it or part it out and scrap the remainder.
 
The 400 is a larger bore 383, otherwise they are essentially the same.
They are really good for making a stroker "low deck".
Definitely keep or sell it if you don't plan to use it.
Any reason why you wouldn't run it in the Charger?
 
The 400 is a larger bore 383, otherwise they are essentially the same.
They are really good for making a stroker "low deck".
Definitely keep or sell it if you don't plan to use it.
Any reason why you wouldn't run it in the Charger?
This charger was a title less car I bought as a parts car years ago. I had planned on using it my 72 that was originally a 400 (engine missing) But have other plans now for that car. I also have a 73 U code that I can use some of the parts on as well. So dont really have need of the engine.
 
The historical "problem" with the 400 has been finding higher compression pistons.

IIRC all the 400's except the 1972 only HP motors are 8-ish to 1.

Again IIRC after 1972 all the 400's (4 and 2 bbl) were the same, and pistons other than stock are hard to find and expensive.

That being said, I've owned at least one (and a '77 2 bbl engine to boot) that ran like a scalded dog.
 
Don’t throw it out,
Parts aren’t hard to get for it
A person restoring a rallye charger or the like could probably use the hi-po exhaust manifolds etc...
There is definitely worth to all of it.
Yes they are excellent for low deck stroker builds too
All the mounts and bracketry, everything is worth money - trust me I know I just spent a lot of time and nickels and dimes to chase all that stuff down for my most resent 383 build
 
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a 400, they are actually preferred over 440s for stroker applications. They generally have more meat in the lower end than a 440, a stiffer, lighter block, easier to fit in an a body.
The reason they had a bad reputation was the factory versions had no compression (really around 7 1/2 to one), no camshaft to speak of, smog tuning, and detonation because of no quench, piston way down in the hole.
Non stroker 400s can still be hard to make run well, there are virtually no decent compression pistons available, short of a custom high-dollar forged piston. There is FAR more good combos available as stroker kits. Putting money into a 400 without stroking it isn't cost effective.
 
I was thinking of using the exhaust manifolds on my 426 wedge that is in my 68 charger I am putting together.
 
I can state for a fact a 72 400 cop engine runs pretty darn good even with the lower compression.
Had a 72 Polara that ran like a scalded dog.
A bit of cam and mill a bit off the heads with some flow bench work and it would be a pretty decent runner.
 
You might want to find a set of 68/69 high performance manifolds.
That way you can get reproduction exhaust for a 68/69 and everything will bolt up. (And look original)
I'm pretty sure the flange orientation is different on the newer ones.
 
You might want to find a set of 68/69 high performance manifolds.
That way you can get reproduction exhaust for a 68/69 and everything will bolt up. (And look original)
I'm pretty sure the flange orientation is different on the newer ones.
Yeah I thought about that. But was wondering what would be more cost effective using these manifolds and having an exhaust shop build the exhaust system or forking out 350 to 400 for a set of 68-69 manifolds and buying an original exhaust system. After all as far as an original look that isn't the theme using a 426 wedge.
 
Damn, If we were closer I'd take that 400 off you hands. The early Lean Burn 400's in the Cordoba or Chargers ran damn good. When we would unload them off the carrier trailer you could spin the tires till you let off the throttle ! Had one in a 78 Dodge short bed. Installed a 383 intake and carb with a set of duals and advanced the timing. It was a runner too.
 
The lower compression is not a bad thing with today's crappy gas,a good set of closed chamber heads,would put the compression ratio around 9 to 1.
 
The 400 was produced in answer to the government regulations and the amount of HP it killed. The brass at Chrysler decided to simply go with a larger bore to help offset the lost HP.

The 400 can be rebuilt like a 383 of old and respond in the same manor if one wanted to keep it a 400. However, being such a good base on which to stroke it from, that is the common route. 452, 470, 500 & + CID are the results. It’s no wonder everybody strokes them.
 
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Keep it a 400, 375 HP is a piece of cake. Does every last 400 on the planet have to be stroked?
i had a 400hp out of a highway patrol car in my drag truck,all cammed up.
ran 13 flat when i could actually get traction.
it hit so hard,that i would have to stop about 20 feet behind the guy in front of me at lights and then the truck would hop forwards till the light turned green.
no vacuum can,so hardly any brakes...oyeah..the joy.
your basic speed deathtrap.
driving That around town got old fast,but the cops used to die laughing watching me at the lights.
i kinda miss that old beast.
 
they have great blocks :rolleyes:
strongest/thickest webbing of the wedge blocks

great to start a build off of, a stroker or otherwise
 
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375 hp at the crank is easy. A lot harder is 375 at the wheels.
 
I guess I can swap meet it at some point. I can use the exhaust manifolds off it. I have had this thing (still in the car) for years. I wont use it for anything. I am not into cars past 71. But I got a deal on the 72 and the 73 then picked up this one s a parts car. I am going to put the 5.7 hemi in the 72 that was originally going into the 68. Then I have the doors, tail lights and bulge hood from a 72 rallye. Should make a nice driver.
 
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