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Help! Carburetor confusion!!!

KaleSkywalker

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Hello, I've been reading up on carburetors and what my car came with. I have a 69 Road Runner, 383 AC, 4-speed car. I thought I needed a 4615S AVS carburetor but after reading multiple post, I'm confused. Am I in the right Carter camp? Do I need the 4711S? Or am I in the wrong camp, should I have a Holley R4440A? Or am I completely wrong all together? My car is a 68 September build. I do not have the build sheet. Please share your thoughts...
 
Both AVS carbs are listed in the service manual for a 4 speed, The 4711s specified for the 335 hp version the 4615 for the rest, but neither is designated for A/C.
 
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It’s the 4615S. That’s the carb for the 330hp engine which you would have with A/C. The 4711S is for the 335hp. All the others are for autos.
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Guys, remind me, what is the difference between a 330 Hp 383 and a 335 HP 383.
 
The 335 is "the Roadrunner engine" with windage tray and same cam as 440 Magnum, painted orange. The 330 has the smaller cam, painted Turquoise, for some reason this is what you got with AC.
 
So do you think '69 Plymouth RoadRunners started with Carter carbs and switched to Holley carbs mid-year or vice-versa? Or do you think this might have been a regional deal where the Midwest plants got Carter carbs and the west coast cars received Holley carbs? Something is missing here...
 
Let’s keep this to topic 1969’s only. Other years don’t matter.

The 1969 charger/Coronet/Dart service manual doesn’t show any Holley 4 bbl carbs. That parts book page above shows the 4440 for RWPDC. Possible a typo? The Galen white book shows the same. It’s the only Holley they show for a b body.

I’ve never seen a 1969 roadrunner/Bee with a Holley carb. I’ve only seen them on low horsepower 440 only in full size cars.

I don’t think it’s plant related. The St. Louis plant made a lot of cars and we see plenty of them on the west coast. LA didn’t make as many cars as other plants.

do you have a broadcast sheet for your car? What is the carb Code? We need a registry to look at their files and see if any have any b bodies with a Holley code #31.
 
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Nate S said:
The 335 is "the Roadrunner engine" with windage tray and same cam as 440 Magnum, painted orange. The 330 has the smaller cam, painted Turquoise, for some reason this is what you got with AC.
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My recollection is that the 335 horse "Road Runner" or "Super Bee" 383's had the different exhaust manifolds, windage tray & slightly different cam compared to the 330 HP 4 BBL 383's. I recall all the -68 & 69 Runners had Carter carbs. The Holley's seemed to start in '70. A buddy of mine had a '70 Barracuda (not Cuda) with 383 4spd and 330 HP motor. The motor was orange & had a different air cleaner & Holley carb, than the 335 HP Runners & Cuda's.
Was never sure what the real difference was in the cams between the 330 & 335 HP motors.
 
KaleSkywalker said:
So do you think '69 Plymouth RoadRunners started with Carter carbs and switched to Holley carbs mid-year or vice-versa? Or do you think this might have been a regional deal where the Midwest plants got Carter carbs and the west coast cars received Holley carbs? Something is missing here...
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Note that the Holley is listed as auto tranny only so while I don't have an answer to the question it shouldn't matter in regards to your car.
 
Nate, the chart you posted looks like it was for '70 vehicles based on the print date. Just say'in.
 
66Satellite47 said:
Nate, the chart you posted looks like it was for '70 vehicles based on the print date. Just say'in.
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That chart is full of 1969 Only part numbers. There are no 1970 carbs listed.

And let’s keep this post all about 1969 for simplicity sake. Other years had many changes that just don’t apply here. They changed things every year or two since the start of BIg blocks in 1958.

All 1969 383-4bbl b-bodies: roadrunners super bees coronets and Chargers had HP exhaust manifolds. Even station wagons and 4 doors.
 
66Satellite47 said:
Nate, the chart you posted looks like it was for '70 vehicles based on the print date. Just say'in.
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It's from the 1969 Passenger Car Parts Catalog. They often updated them a year or two after initial issue.
 
Nate S said:
The 335 is "the Roadrunner engine" with windage tray and same cam as 440 Magnum, painted orange. The 330 has the smaller cam, painted Turquoise, for some reason this is what you got with AC.
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I knew it! It's the PAINT!
 
Nate S said:
The 335 is "the Roadrunner engine" with windage tray and same cam as 440 Magnum, painted orange. The 330 has the smaller cam, painted Turquoise, for some reason this is what you got with AC.
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How in THEE hell could a Road Runner not have the 'Road Runner' engine.

WTF Chrysler:mad:
 
Nate S said:
The 335 is "the Roadrunner engine" with windage tray and same cam as 440 Magnum, painted orange. The 330 has the smaller cam, painted Turquoise, for some reason this is what you got with AC.
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66ChargerPat, What part do you disagree with? Paint? Cam? AC cars getting the lesser engine?
 
OK back to the original question and application. He says he has a Roadrunner 383 ( 335 hp version only) with a 4 speed AND a/c.
4615 S was for the 330 hp ( not a Roadrunner).
 
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MoparLeo said:
OK back to the original question and application. He says he has a Roadrunner 383 ( 335 hp version only) with a 4 speed AND a/c.
4615 was for the 330 hp ( not a Roadrunner).
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Yes, that's the carb. Roadrunner didn't get a "roadrunner engine" when it had AC
 
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