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Borgeson Steering Question

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Several years ago I installed the borgeson steering box in my 68 charger with a 6.1 hemi. I like the way it drives but when I slow down to park I have little steering assistance and make a lot of whinning from the power steering pump. I have tried several different types of fluid with no change. Does anyone else have this problem and found a solution
 
I've heard this before. It seems to be a characteristic that many of them have. Functionally, the Borgeson unit is excellent. The noise they make is considered normal.
 
mgivens710 said:
Several years ago I installed the borgeson steering box in my 68 charger with a 6.1 hemi. I like the way it drives but when I slow down to park I have little steering assistance and make a lot of whinning from the power steering pump. I have tried several different types of fluid with no change. Does anyone else have this problem and found a solution
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It won't help much.. but i installed mine in november and finally drove it yesterday.. 40 minute drive and zero noise or issues and i love how it drives now. only complaint for me is the pump gets VERY hot.. 180 on a 65 degree day, will be adding a cooler for sure.
 
Yaeh a cooler, sounds like a good idea...
 
I’ve had an inline cooler in the red car since just after I first swapped in a 440 24 years ago. Hot California sun, aggressive driving and wide tires do conspire to heat up the fluid.
I did a Borgeson swap 2 years ago on a Plymouth and added an inline cooler that I pulled from a minivan in a junkyard. Low cost and effective.
 
Kern Dog said:
I’ve had an inline cooler in the red car since just after I first swapped in a 440 24 years ago. Hot California sun, aggressive driving and wide tires do conspire to heat up the fluid.
I did a Borgeson swap 2 years ago on a Plymouth and added an inline cooler that I pulled from a minivan in a junkyard. Low cost and effective.
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yeah, i need to do it.. just.. lazy right now and forever it feels like :) The borgeson setup was expensive but it's amazing how much tighter the car is with it
 
A good rebuilt original mopar box is not terrible but still nowhere near as responsive as a Borgeson unit.
Yeah, it isn’t cheap but it is a definite improvement.
 
Did you buy the pump from Borgeson directly?

I literally just went though this same situation. Installed the Borgeson box + pump and same results, drives great when cold and then after it warms up, the steering gets hard a low speeds. Added a cooler, nothing. Changed fluids 3-4 times, nothing.

Finally after all this, I talked to Peter Bergman and he sold me a P/S pump with his "tune up" done to it(how he sells them), and all of my problems went away. Feels great now all the time.
 
Zeppelin264 said:
Did you buy the pump from Borgeson directly?

I literally just went though this same situation. Installed the Borgeson box + pump and same results, drives great when cold and then after it warms up, the steering gets hard a low speeds. Added a cooler, nothing. Changed fluids 3-4 times, nothing.

Finally after all this, I talked to Peter Bergman and he sold me a P/S pump with his "tune up" done to it(how he sells them), and all of my problems went away. Feels great now all the time.
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thanks for this! My box was installed not too many miles ago and I'm running a new (rebuilt) Saginaw pump. Less than 300 mi so far, but no noise or issues. I'll keep this info about the tuned Bergman box on file as a backup in case any future issues occur.
 
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