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I've heard the '49 Olds 88 argument. We are certainly never going to win every point of view here in a Mopar chat site.

Like I said. There are exceptions. As well as discrepancies. Technically Sport Fury was it's own model. Thus could arguably be the first true muscle car. Being it does check the boxes for '62-'64. But then went full size C Body in '65. And for that? Falls out of consideration. IMO.

Doesn't matter. Its the model. Not the base platform. And every rule has exceptions.

What differs? Savoy, Polara, Dart. ect had family car options. Like 4 door. 6 cylinder ect. GTO did not. It was Muscle or bust. Yes, this topic is very argumentative. The term "Muscle Car" wasn't used until later in the production's run. IMO. GTO was the first Muscle car.

Yes. RoadRunner had a ton of options. I have made the argument. By the time you checked the goodies you could have had standard with a GTX? But there were plenty that wanted the RoadRunner model to make theirs. And I believe the "Beep Beep" horn was only for RoadRunner? (And Superbird )

Yes. And Yes. "S" was "Special" That was only assigned to GTX. As highest priced model.

There is no RS23 model GTX post 1971. ('67-'71) U-codes RM23U are RoadRunners for 1973. With GTX package. (I believe for 1970. RM23U were Superbird?) I'm afraid from purist point of view? You are wrong. GTX models ceased after 1971.

No GTX produced in '73.

Welcome. And she looks as if she deserves some loving. It's certainly the right year. Car of the year for 1969. And that says alot being I believe 1969 was the US best automotive design year in history. But that of course is a whole other debate topic. Lol.

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It was touch and go there for awhile.

OMG! What is that red monstrosity? Is it a Fury that's sick? Can anything be done? My dad owned a '69 Buick Wildcat that looked something like that. They were dark times in my life. The gas gauge out ran the tachometer with that 430. But in all seriousness. There are certainly alot worse cars...

For me? I would not be inclined to entertain candy paint for classic Mopars. It's too over the top. And takes attention from the body designs in my opinion. Those paints work on vehicles like classic trucks. And others that need some bling. Some may disagree. That there is no such thing as...

Browns don't typically get the attention. But because Mopars typically have more visually appealing body lines? They can sport a wider range and wilder color combos. Case in point. Ever see a plum crazy purple Chevelle? First question everyone asks. "Why purple?" But a Cuda? "Awesome." A high...

I know. I was there man! https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DS21N9XXdn20&ved=2ahUKEwj7v9jUzaKFAxXtmokEHbpfDFQQwqsBegQIFRAG&usg=AOvVaw3pD4P_JTCkXGPqbq5k4UdU

"It will get done!" You don't have to keep reminding every 6 months? Geez Wizz!

I didn't realize he was 87? But he did make good characters in plenty of movies. He will be missed.

Come on. You know there is a little truth in that?

The same dream. I find a hidden room behind a basement wall. I open. Then I cry and awake. (Or is it wake then cry?)

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