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1963 Plymouth Belvedere

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Chad
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Hello all, recently I posted in the General Discussions section about going to look at a 1963 Plymouth Belvedere that was for sale at one of those classic/exotic car dealerships. I figured it would be more fitting to update that thread here, as I ended up purchasing the car. Let me start with a little of the backstory;

Besides a 1971 Road Runner (my other car), a max wedge car has always been a dream of mine, in particular, a ‘63 belvedere. I’ve been searching for project cars for a while. While doing so, I came across this car online about a year and a half ago. Not necessarily a project car but everything I was looking for: year, model, cross ram intake, push button tranny, not tubbed and no roll cage. I would check on the car every month or so just for shits and giggles. It became a bit of a joke between my wife and I with me saying “that car I want to buy is still for sale” about once a month. When I originally saw it, the listing price was in the upper 50K range. Way out of my budget. As time went on, the price started to come down. In the meantime, I was pricing out project cars, the parts I wanted, etc. The price of the car was lowered again over this past summer and I decided to go look at the car in person. It was a 3.5 hour drive from where I live to NY, where the car was located. Before going to look, I spoke with the salesperson for more info on the car. According to him, the car has been stored at their facility (they offer long and short term storage and full mechanical services) for a number of years. The owner recently passed away and his wife was now selling the car. It is a max wedge “tribute” with an original 426 max wedge engine. The salesperson had not other info on the engine or particulars of the car.

When I arrived at their facility, they already had the Belvedere on a lift for my inspection. I looked the car over for about an hour and a half, stuck a magnet everywhere, checked out the usual areas of rust/rot, went for a test drive, etc. I knew where I wanted to be as far as price and threw out a lower offer. The salesperson told me the seller originally listed it for 80K because her husbands friends told her the car was very valuable - I’m guessing they thought it had a 426 hemi in it. The car has been for sale since the beginning of covid. After a bit of finagling, I got the car for what I wanted to pay. There is no way I could build this car for what I paid for it.

The car will need to be repainted as it is showing signs of its age; a few dings, chips, etc., which I kind of suspected before going to look at it. The car, at least to me, appears very solid. My cheap refrigerator magnet stuck everywhere with no issues. Looking at the cowl from under the dash, it appears almost new. All the trim is there and the grill is in very good shape. The interior and headliner are in very good condition. The only questionable area I could find was the trunk floor. It appears to be a bit pitted under the paint but very solid. All the lights work. The dealership replaced a few of the brake lines, changed the oil and gave everything the once over before I took delivery. The engine is running extremely rich and will need to be addressed. The heater box is missing but I scored a really nice one online.

My plans for the car are to; eventually repaint it. This is a long way out, the paint doesn’t look all that bad unless you know what to look for. Upgrade the front brakes to disc, add seatbelts and change the rear gears - I’m thinking there’s 4.10’s in there now.

Thanks for following along!

Pics from dealer:
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Delivered:
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It’s new home!:
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Replacement heater box:
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Dings and things:
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Weird spot of off-colored paint??:
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Trunk floor:
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Great find,and great job skillfully waiting out for the price to come to you Chad. I would get it tuned to your liking fix any bugs and drive the hell out of the car. After doing the extensive restoration of the Road Runner, enjoy this car the way it is at least until the other car is done. You will enjoy driving the car with less than perfect paint and not have the stress of worrying sick about the car getting a scratch or a stone chip every time you take it out.
 
Great find,and great job skillfully waiting out for the price to come to you Chad. I would get it tuned to your liking fix any bugs and drive the hell out of the car. After doing the extensive restoration of the Road Runner, enjoy this car the way it is at least until the other car is done. You will enjoy driving the car with less than perfect paint and not have the stress of worrying sick about the car getting a scratch or a stone chip every time you take it out.
Thank you! I’m going to get it tuned and upgrade the brakes and enjoy it! I’m thinking painting is many years away.
 
Lucky duck! The 63 Plymouth has always been my first love. Back in the 70 and 71 days I had a Belvidere that unfortunely crashed while I was home on leave before going to Germany.
Then in 2002, I found a Fury and built it as a Max Wedge race car that I sold in September of last year, and really miss that one.
I would like to say, please get the correct air cleaners for your car. Otherwise, it's a beautiful car and wish you many years of enjoyment.
And remember, you know all the things needing fixing, not the average person who sees the car. Ruffcut
 
Thank you. I’ve been looking for the air cleaners. No luck so far. Mancini is out of stock on their repops and don’t know when they’ll be getting more.
 
Great looking '63 Belvedere you scored! A buddy of mine has a twin to it, visually, but it has a '69 RoadRunner 383 in it. A friend of mine just bought a pair of reproduction steel air cleaner lids recently for his '62 Dart Maxie clone. I can try to find out where they came from.
I think that your rich running Wedge could be a combination of your cool Mass. climate and no exhaust heat to the intake and carbs. Let things warm up before passing judgement on it. I gave this advice to my '62 Dart friend early last year, and I was right. But then, it sounds like the car has sat for years, so, maybe carb refreshes are in order. Real Carter 3447's or 3705's, or Edelbrock's?
Your car looks plenty OK to enjoy as is for cruises or friendly car shows. I bet a lot of people would be pleased to see it! 1963 Plymouth's have been a favourite of mine since new. My Mom was buying a new car in 1963, and I tried steering her toward a '63 Fury, but I it did not happen.
 
Great looking '63 Belvedere you scored! A buddy of mine has a twin to it, visually, but it has a '69 RoadRunner 383 in it. A friend of mine just bought a pair of reproduction steel air cleaner lids recently for his '62 Dart Maxie clone. I can try to find out where they came from.
I think that your rich running Wedge could be a combination of your cool Mass. climate and no exhaust heat to the intake and carbs. Let things warm up before passing judgement on it. I gave this advice to my '62 Dart friend early last year, and I was right. But then, it sounds like the car has sat for years, so, maybe carb refreshes are in order. Real Carter 3447's or 3705's, or Edelbrock's?
Your car looks plenty OK to enjoy as is for cruises or friendly car shows. I bet a lot of people would be pleased to see it! 1963 Plymouth's have been a favourite of mine since new. My Mom was buying a new car in 1963, and I tried steering her toward a '63 Fury, but I it did not happen.
If you could find out where your friend bought his air cleaners that would be much appreciated.

The carbs are Carters. I’m not sure which ones though. Looks like they might need a rebuild, leaking a bit? It looks like the chokes are zip tied open too.


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On a side note, the dealership I purchased the car from , Motorcar Classics, has two huge warehouses of cares, mostly high-end exotics; Ferrari’s, Lamborghini’s, Porsche’s, etc. They also had several vintage cars, as well. 3 of George Barris’ cars; The Batmobile, The Monkeemobile and the DB5 from Goldfinger that was used as a publicity car for the movie. All signed by Barris. The DB5 was pretty cool but an electrical nightmare. Everything, the rear bulletproof shield, rotating license plate, machine guns, etc were all wired to a massive relay in the trunk, looked like a rats nest. They also had a few cudas and a really nice Grand Wagoneer. You could spend a day or two just looking at all the cars they have. Here are a few pics I took. I was trying to stay focused on my car so I didn’t take many pics of the other cars.

Here’s the DB5, you can see the Monkeemobile next to it:
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An AAR replica, you can see the Batmobile behind it:
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The carbs look to be later AVS. The factory carbs would have had cable-operated manual chokes. Someone has stamped LEFT and RIGHT on them. Luckily, the carb tags are still there, so you can order rebuild kits for them.
 
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