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1969 Super Bee...worth restoring? Or make it a driver?

You have purchased a 1969 Dodge Super Bee that presents a classic car dilemma, balancing its inherent value against the issues created by the previous owner's flawed restoration attempt. Your Super Bee is a numbers-matching, true Super Bee coupe equipped with a 383 engine and a four-speed manual transmission, making it a highly desirable and authentic muscle car. It also possesses several rare and valuable factory options, including the quarter scoops and the N96 Ramcharger setup, which significantly enhances its collector appeal. The car's history as a Texas vehicle its entire life suggests it has a solid original metal body, which is a major advantage for any restoration project.

On the one hand, the previous owner's work has created several issues that must be addressed, presenting a difficult choice regarding the car's future. The amateur paint job in a non-original Chevrolet Hugger Orange color is not only visually unappealing but also indicates a lack of proper preparation and bodywork. This poor surface is not salvageable with a simple cut and buff, and the lack of proper blocking is evident in the imperfections and unevenness along the body panels. The previous owner also deviated from the car's original factory specifications by replacing the correct tan interior with a black one, although they did purchase new interior parts from Josh's. However, the professionally rebuilt engine is a definite asset, and the documented $7,000 investment in performance upgrades ensures that the mechanical foundation is strong. The undercarriage, while showing some surface rust, appears to be solid and undamaged.

Your dilemma lies in whether to proceed with a full, comprehensive restoration, which would respect the car's originality and maximize its market value, or to simply finish the low-budget build to create a rough but enjoyable driver. A full restoration would involve correcting all the previous owner's mistakes and returning the car to its factory-correct condition, but it is a significant undertaking that you estimate would cost another $20,000 to $30,000. In contrast, completing the car as a low-budget driver would get it on the road quickly and with less expense, but it would not do justice to the car's potential or its inherent rarity. You are hesitant to invest such a large sum and potentially go "upside down" on the car, but you also believe that a properly restored version could be worth $60,000 or more.

Ultimately, the decision rests on your priorities and resources, but the consensus in the classic car community is that a car with numbers-matching and desirable factory options warrants a full, high-quality restoration. The rarity of its factory options and the integrity of its original components justify the investment required to restore it to its former glory. A high-quality restoration of this Super Bee would undoubtedly increase its value and make it a highly desirable car among collectors, likely surpassing your estimated $60,000 mark. The car's solid original metal and documented engine rebuild provide an excellent foundation, making it a worthy candidate for such an investment. While a low-budget driver would offer immediate gratification, a full restoration offers the greater long-term return on investment and provides a more rewarding ownership experience.
 
The hardest part about owning an old car is, driving it. Most can’t just enjoy the fact that using it is determined by the condition. Way too many live their lives in the garage and rarely see the light of day. Drive it. Daily. Rock chips won’t bother you as much now. But if you put more of your dollars into it, it will sit.
 
The hardest part about owning an old car is, driving it. Most can’t just enjoy the fact that using it is determined by the condition. Way too many live their lives in the garage and rarely see the light of day. Drive it. Daily. Rock chips won’t bother you as much now. But if you put more of your dollars into it, it will sit.
Of my seven GTXs, one was a project car that I ditched after looking hard at the math, three were really nice drivers, and the last three could be considered trailer queens, all were local show winners. I've enjoyed the recent ones every bit as much as the earlier, less pristine cars, and drive the current one to the Carlisle Chrysler Nationals every summer. However, in my case, the miles driven per year has fallen in direct proportion to the level of restoration.
 
I originally thought he should bolt it together and drive it for awhile. However he is retired, has the time to do it right and is just finishing up a GTX that he'll have to drive. So that changes my opinion, might as well jump in and do it now. One things for sure the car condition and option package rate a full blown resto sooner or later. Its too good to just be a ratty musclecar. IMO only of course.
 
Not trying to hi-jack, but my vote is still - drive it! I’m getting closer every day to having mine assembled after being blown COMPLETELY apart for 40 year nap…. Each step seeing it as a car again is exciting just finished assembling the dash and once it’s fully in (today’s job) I can focus on a making a running drivetrain….

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You have purchased a 1969 Dodge Super Bee that presents a classic car dilemma, balancing its inherent value against the issues created by the previous owner's flawed restoration attempt. Your Super Bee is a numbers-matching, true Super Bee coupe equipped with a 383 engine and a four-speed manual transmission, making it a highly desirable and authentic muscle car. It also possesses several rare and valuable factory options, including the quarter scoops and the N96 Ramcharger setup, which significantly enhances its collector appeal. The car's history as a Texas vehicle its entire life suggests it has a solid original metal body, which is a major advantage for any restoration project.

On the one hand, the previous owner's work has created several issues that must be addressed, presenting a difficult choice regarding the car's future. The amateur paint job in a non-original Chevrolet Hugger Orange color is not only visually unappealing but also indicates a lack of proper preparation and bodywork. This poor surface is not salvageable with a simple cut and buff, and the lack of proper blocking is evident in the imperfections and unevenness along the body panels. The previous owner also deviated from the car's original factory specifications by replacing the correct tan interior with a black one, although they did purchase new interior parts from Josh's. However, the professionally rebuilt engine is a definite asset, and the documented $7,000 investment in performance upgrades ensures that the mechanical foundation is strong. The undercarriage, while showing some surface rust, appears to be solid and undamaged.

Your dilemma lies in whether to proceed with a full, comprehensive restoration, which would respect the car's originality and maximize its market value, or to simply finish the low-budget build to create a rough but enjoyable driver. A full restoration would involve correcting all the previous owner's mistakes and returning the car to its factory-correct condition, but it is a significant undertaking that you estimate would cost another $20,000 to $30,000. In contrast, completing the car as a low-budget driver would get it on the road quickly and with less expense, but it would not do justice to the car's potential or its inherent rarity. You are hesitant to invest such a large sum and potentially go "upside down" on the car, but you also believe that a properly restored version could be worth $60,000 or more.

Ultimately, the decision rests on your priorities and resources, but the consensus in the classic car community is that a car with numbers-matching and desirable factory options warrants a full, high-quality restoration. The rarity of its factory options and the integrity of its original components justify the investment required to restore it to its former glory. A high-quality restoration of this Super Bee would undoubtedly increase its value and make it a highly desirable car among collectors, likely surpassing your estimated $60,000 mark. The car's solid original metal and documented engine rebuild provide an excellent foundation, making it a worthy candidate for such an investment. While a low-budget driver would offer immediate gratification, a full restoration offers the greater long-term return on investment and provides a more rewarding ownership experience.
I love this response. But have to ask, was this AI generated? Very impressive if it was.
 
I am personally not a fan of the orange since it isn't the original color, but it's probably cheaper to make the orange look nicer than sanding it all down and going with the original color.

Probably more cost effective to sell it and spend restoration money on a better car.

Doing a full restoration will end up being a bottomless pit.

Tom

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