• When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.

1969 Super Bee...worth restoring? Or make it a driver?

The hardest part about owning an old car is, driving it. Most can’t just enjoy the fact that using it is determined by the condition. Way too many live their lives in the garage and rarely see the light of day. Drive it. Daily. Rock chips won’t bother you as much now. But if you put more of your dollars into it, it will sit.
 
The hardest part about owning an old car is, driving it. Most can’t just enjoy the fact that using it is determined by the condition. Way too many live their lives in the garage and rarely see the light of day. Drive it. Daily. Rock chips won’t bother you as much now. But if you put more of your dollars into it, it will sit.
Of my seven GTXs, one was a project car that I ditched after looking hard at the math, three were really nice drivers, and the last three could be considered trailer queens, all were local show winners. I've enjoyed the recent ones every bit as much as the earlier, less pristine cars, and drive the current one to the Carlisle Chrysler Nationals every summer. However, in my case, the miles driven per year has fallen in direct proportion to the level of restoration.
 
I originally thought he should bolt it together and drive it for awhile. However he is retired, has the time to do it right and is just finishing up a GTX that he'll have to drive. So that changes my opinion, might as well jump in and do it now. One things for sure the car condition and option package rate a full blown resto sooner or later. Its too good to just be a ratty musclecar. IMO only of course.
 
Not trying to hi-jack, but my vote is still - drive it! I’m getting closer every day to having mine assembled after being blown COMPLETELY apart for 40 year nap…. Each step seeing it as a car again is exciting just finished assembling the dash and once it’s fully in (today’s job) I can focus on a making a running drivetrain….

IMG_7551.jpeg


IMG_7547.jpeg


IMG_7561.jpeg
 
You have purchased a 1969 Dodge Super Bee that presents a classic car dilemma, balancing its inherent value against the issues created by the previous owner's flawed restoration attempt. Your Super Bee is a numbers-matching, true Super Bee coupe equipped with a 383 engine and a four-speed manual transmission, making it a highly desirable and authentic muscle car. It also possesses several rare and valuable factory options, including the quarter scoops and the N96 Ramcharger setup, which significantly enhances its collector appeal. The car's history as a Texas vehicle its entire life suggests it has a solid original metal body, which is a major advantage for any restoration project.

On the one hand, the previous owner's work has created several issues that must be addressed, presenting a difficult choice regarding the car's future. The amateur paint job in a non-original Chevrolet Hugger Orange color is not only visually unappealing but also indicates a lack of proper preparation and bodywork. This poor surface is not salvageable with a simple cut and buff, and the lack of proper blocking is evident in the imperfections and unevenness along the body panels. The previous owner also deviated from the car's original factory specifications by replacing the correct tan interior with a black one, although they did purchase new interior parts from Josh's. However, the professionally rebuilt engine is a definite asset, and the documented $7,000 investment in performance upgrades ensures that the mechanical foundation is strong. The undercarriage, while showing some surface rust, appears to be solid and undamaged.

Your dilemma lies in whether to proceed with a full, comprehensive restoration, which would respect the car's originality and maximize its market value, or to simply finish the low-budget build to create a rough but enjoyable driver. A full restoration would involve correcting all the previous owner's mistakes and returning the car to its factory-correct condition, but it is a significant undertaking that you estimate would cost another $20,000 to $30,000. In contrast, completing the car as a low-budget driver would get it on the road quickly and with less expense, but it would not do justice to the car's potential or its inherent rarity. You are hesitant to invest such a large sum and potentially go "upside down" on the car, but you also believe that a properly restored version could be worth $60,000 or more.

Ultimately, the decision rests on your priorities and resources, but the consensus in the classic car community is that a car with numbers-matching and desirable factory options warrants a full, high-quality restoration. The rarity of its factory options and the integrity of its original components justify the investment required to restore it to its former glory. A high-quality restoration of this Super Bee would undoubtedly increase its value and make it a highly desirable car among collectors, likely surpassing your estimated $60,000 mark. The car's solid original metal and documented engine rebuild provide an excellent foundation, making it a worthy candidate for such an investment. While a low-budget driver would offer immediate gratification, a full restoration offers the greater long-term return on investment and provides a more rewarding ownership experience.
I love this response. But have to ask, was this AI generated? Very impressive if it was.
 
I am personally not a fan of the orange since it isn't the original color, but it's probably cheaper to make the orange look nicer than sanding it all down and going with the original color.

Probably more cost effective to sell it and spend restoration money on a better car.

Doing a full restoration will end up being a bottomless pit.

Tom

1761836161658.png
 
I think the answer to the question relates to what you want to do with your Superbee. Do you want to drive it to cruise ins and cars and coffee? Do you want to take your family out for ice cream and cruise on Sundays? Maybe you’re more interested in hot rodding around town and doing some stop light to stop light accelerating. Are you wanting to have a perfect show car, win trophies, and trailer it to events?

I think previous posters did a perfect job of describing the ratio between the amount of use a car gets vs how perfect the condition is….so the question is more how do you want to use the car? If you decide to get it cleaned up as best you can with some paint rescue and undercoating and drive the wheels off of it, it’s not going to change the options, numbers matching status, or the overall condition. It will still be a great restoration candidate in a few years.

Regardless, that is a cool car!
 
I bought my ( mostly all original ) O rust Arizona Desert 80 thousand mile 383 4sd #matching in 02 for 10k and had all them same thoughts back then... here it is today .. i haven't done a thing but drive it ( weather permitting ) and i don't think i could of put anymore money in my pocket by doing nothing ish but drive!! ;b

20241111_134309.jpg
 
I would be so tempted to a A12 440-6 tribute because of 1969. Certainly no foul on value. ( I believe it would increase value to cover the cost of the extra build requirements. No need to have a real 440-6 block and heads sence its not a true A12) I would even go further on performance goodies than an original A12.

But that's me.
 
I would be so tempted to a A12 440-6 tribute because of 1969. Certainly no foul on value. ( I believe it would increase value to cover the cost of the extra build requirements. No need to have a real 440-6 block and heads sence its not a true A12) I would even go further on performance goodies than an original A12.

But that's me.
I can do 1 better.. I've had a original A12 drivetrain out of a 40k mile super bee since mid 80s .. iv been trying to locate the original car since with no luck.. i have pan to original lift off hood. And the 69.5 dana 60 .. iv thought hard about putting it me bee and still might ?? It bee as close to a date code Correct A12 as can bee !! Iv since got another 69 bee so i might just leave my Arizona #matching bee?

20241001_173327.jpg


20240915_090719.jpg


20250725_230651.jpg


20250725_230641.jpg
 
I just purchased this 69 Bee. It is a numbers matching true Super Bee coupe, 4 speed, 383. Factory quarter scoops and N96 options. Texas car it's whole life. Parked for many years. Im the third owner. The previous owner bought the car a year ago from original owners and started doing a low budget build on it. Painted it himself and it is not good at all!! Really bad! On top of that, he painted it chevy hugger orange. He did purchase all new interior from Josh's, but he changed it to black interior instead of the original tan. He did send out the engine and had it professionally rebuilt with an upgraded cam and a few other performance internals. Nice motor for sure and has receipt for $7k in engine work.

Car appears to be a very solid original metal car. A few pin holes in trunk floor, and one hole patched on passenger rear lower. He did not spend the time needed on body work, so definitely needs some dings and imperfections worked out. Looking down the side really shows the lack of proper blocking and needs attention. The clear coat is about the worst I have ever seen. No way a cut and buff will get this car anything more than a 30 footer! Bottom of car has alot of surface rust, but appears to be very solid otherwise.

So here is my dilemma. As original as this car is, and the options it has, it would seem only right to do a full restoration. But that is more than I was planning to do, and probably take another $20-30k minimum. If I complete the car in the direction he was going, it seems to be the easy route, but would only ever be a very rough driver. Could be fun and definitely get her on the road quick, but seems like this car deserves better.

So what are your thoughts? Is this car worth saving and putting the investment into it? With these factory options is it rare enough to justify the investment? Hate to go upside down on any car, but thinking if done right, this could be a $60k + car, maybe more depending on market. View attachment 1932520View attachment 1932513View attachment 1932514View attachment 1932515View attachment 1932516View attachment 1932518View attachment 1932519
View attachment 1932521View attachment 1932522View attachment 1932517
I would drive it and get stuff done when you can. It's a nice driver for sure. Just find a way to deal with the undercarriage. Maybe you can get someone to sand blast it and then maybe undercoat it.
 
I can do 1 better.. I've had a original A12 drivetrain out of a 40k mile super bee since mid 80s .. iv been trying to locate the original car since with no luck.. i have pan to original lift off hood. And the 69.5 dana 60 .. iv thought hard about putting it me bee and still might ?? It bee as close to a date code Correct A12 as can bee !! Iv since got another 69 bee so i might just leave my Arizona #matching bee?

View attachment 1998405

View attachment 1998406

View attachment 1998407

View attachment 1998408
I can do one better than that I had an original A12 WM23M9A car,with a 4 Speed and 4.88 gears. It was a blast to drive. I sold it because there was no driving the car slow. The odds were that I was going to end up dead or in jail with the car. I wish I still had it.

20180326_162153.jpg


20180326_162216.jpg


20180326_162202.jpg
 
Back
Top