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2024 'cuda... thoughts ??

That's what gets me about all the different manufacturers making the same shape bodies. Who had it first? It's a wonder they're not suing each other over copy rights? Have you noticed all of these mini SUVs on the road, you can't tell one from another unless you get close enough to see the insignia on the back. Then you have to know who's insignia it is because they don't use their name on the car anymore. Such a generic world :rolleyes:
 
And all of those exciting colors they have available...blacks, whites, greys, and silvers.
 
Decidedly MEH.
How much does it weigh again? 6000lbs?
Still waiting for the brave new world EV people to show off their Nurbergring record setting lap in one. I mean they wouldn't STFU about it for the last 15 years.
maybe they found out a 6000lb car doesn't do that well? Maybe they should try the EV Hummer that has a higher curb weight then a 20 foot Uhaul box truck.

The guy in the charger video is so hypocritical, they are saving the planet and then he boasts how fast the battery will discharge because the car is fast.
What other nameplates can they drag through the mud to destroy them for one last hurr-ah? Super Commando? Bring back the Stealth? Maybe an EV shortbox Warlock?
Chrysler lost me mostly when they discontinued AWD with the Hemi in a car. Lately it is just proving how Italian it can be. Out of touch with the US.
I am sure there is a Gen Z 80lb Social Studies grad out there that will take on a 9 year loan to buy one though.
 
Are Mopar fans going to be embarrassed like the Ford fans with their abomination Mustang Mach-E ?
 
Are Mopar fans going to be embarrassed like the Ford fans with their abomination Mustang Mach-E ?
Not the same. Mopar guys don't think these EV's are Mopars and dissassociate the brand with the current nonsense.
Ford guys are so zealot about Ford they can't, so they just don't talk about it. Like the early 80's "5.0". Pretend it never happened, long live Ford!

Meanwhile Mopar guys heckle the heck out of the guy in his EV video and blame Italy for killing the brand when they killed the Viper. At least I do.
It's not embarrassing, it's disgusting.
 
From the article ...

Two gas-powered models will be introduced next year. They're known as the SixPack models, obviously in reference to their six cylinders.

The standard output (SO) will produce 420 horsepower, while the high output (HO) will have 550 hp to play with. Dodge has already stated that all new Chargers will be all-wheel drive, which means the gas-powered Charger (only electric models get the Daytona suffix) will be more of an M3/M4 rival than a traditional muscle car.


As stated by Detective D; "Lately it is just proving how Italian it can be. Out of touch with the US."

 
MO, some fantastic hits and ugly misses trying to bring back some iconic models/body styles:
  • Two-seater T-Bird – miss
  • Mustang a hit (until they morphed it a few years later)
  • Camaro – miss
  • GTO – fugly miss, embarrassing
  • Challenger – hit
Bring back the 'Cuda when Plymouth no longer exists? Kidnapping.
 
As stated by Detective D; "Lately it is just proving how Italian it can be. Out of touch with the US."


It's more of how French/failures they can be 'now Peugeot' is heading it up...
showing us they're 'Surrender Monkeys' literally,
instead of Fix It Again Tony...
 
It's more of how French/failures they can be 'now Peugeot' is heading it up...
showing us they're 'Surrender Monkeys' literally,
instead of Fix It Again Tony...
The same French that provided enough money, troops, armament, military leadership, and naval support to help America win the American Revolution? That company (Stellantis) made over $20 Billion USD in profits last year, not exactly a failure.
 
Hope the configuration planned for an ICE option in the future.
 
The same French that provided enough money, troops, armament, military leadership, and naval support to help America win the American Revolution? That company (Stellantis) made over $20 Billion USD in profits last year, not exactly a failure.
Yep that's them very French Surrender Monkeys,
& since have surrendered in several wars
we had to bail them out, 2 different World Wars & got US in VietNam too
the French Canadians burned down our US Capitol/White House in 1812 too
not exactly an ally
& then helped US to attack the British in the Battle of New Orleans in 1814
"Along with Col. Jackson down the mighty Mississip"
as the Johnny Horton song goes
they didn't seem to know what side they wanted to be on

The 'country of France' is a socialist stronghold today
yep they helped start Democracy, now are socialists/refugees that can vote...

French is Peugeot, Stellantis is a Dutch owned Company Technically
& is part of a huger automotive conglomerate, 14-15 labels
including a couple that are Italian, Now American Dodge Chrysler Ram Jeep now too

Dodge alone they haven't done well since like 2007, not in total in profits
Chrysler done even worse, a few Dodge cars sold well here,
Charger & Challengers,
Italian/Fiat Dart was a failure too,
not around the world they haven't profited
unless it was Ram or Jeep, subsidized the MoPar brand
that's not a Dodge brand, it is under the Stellantis Umbrella

by the way I have some French blood too, not much thankfully
someone must be French,
to be pushed out of shape like that comment

how much of that was Dodge's EV nonsense "Profit" ?
excluding all the ICE they sold, lil' to none of the market
 
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The same French that provided enough money, troops, armament, military leadership, and naval support to help America win the American Revolution? That company (Stellantis) made over $20 Billion USD in profits last year, not exactly a failure.
In 1960's, White bought up Moline, Oliver, Cockshutt, and a few minor labels.
They made money hand over fist exploiting the reputation of the three tractor brands.
Meanwhile, all the profits were sunk into the heavy truck segment to try to get a foothold.

The tractor companies that made them the money were neutered, had most of the R&D taken away as the decade moved on, and eventually the last models were frankensteins of the little bit of tech the companies had developed.
Then the labels were abandoned as they failed and rolled into one new tractor, that played 4th and 5th string to the rest.

They made tons of money by destroying the brands that made them tons of money, and when stuff was used up SHTF and the whole thing got absorbed into a bigger fry pan.

This scenario has played out a number of times, always to a bigger investor, someone with a grand plan to use the funds to go into a new segment after decades of success where they were. Customers are loyal, it works for a while, and eventually even though there are still customers out there, lots of them, hungry for the product that had been being delivered, the product is discontinued and the company turns into something totally different and eventually folds as the loyal people walk away from the new alien to them entity.

Dodge and Chrysler are basically used up. Jeep has been made so cheap and plain shitty lately their reputation is not long off from biting them. Ram is maybe the last bit to hold on, because THEY WILL STILL OFFER A HEMI THIS YEAR. Soon, the labels will be rolled into one new label, and then a few years from now the parent company will merge with another or get bought or whatever and dissapear.

This EV BS and what they are trying to do is the last hurrah, the hybrid, the deployment of the frankenstein tech from different divisions, advertised as cutting edge new. Some loyal fans will remain, most will look at it, shrug, and look for something more familiar. The loyal customers are about to change brands for maybe the first time in a LONG time. Meanwhile the big wigs are telling the board this is the future and the customers will love it even though it is totally different then what they had been buying. Then some bogus numbers will fly out, then the SHTF.

They had a chance to offer a turbo 6 alongside the hemi 6 years back. They opted to maintain the same tech for 6 years because back then they already knew the plan to force EV on us. Now they are backtracking to avoid collapse. It's too late, they have convinced themselves they are genius marketers and the world market is still an option, they just need the profitable brands to pony up one last sacrifice for it.

5 years from now they will probably merge with either Audi or a chinese company will take them over.
 
In 1960's, White bought up Moline, Oliver, Cockshutt, and a few minor labels.
They made money hand over fist exploiting the reputation of the three tractor brands.
Meanwhile, all the profits were sunk into the heavy truck segment to try to get a foothold.

The tractor companies that made them the money were neutered, had most of the R&D taken away as the decade moved on, and eventually the last models were frankensteins of the little bit of tech the companies had developed.
Then the labels were abandoned as they failed and rolled into one new tractor, that played 4th and 5th string to the rest.

They made tons of money by destroying the brands that made them tons of money, and when stuff was used up SHTF and the whole thing got absorbed into a bigger fry pan.

5 years from now they will probably merge with either Audi or a chinese company will take them over.
(General Motors/GM {Govt. Motors} maybe the most now in,
heavily subsidized by US Govt., now GM in bed with commies, their factories in China,
selling Buicks & Chevys, helping push the EV products for their too)

Or Volkswagen Group, a huge multinational conglomerate,
12 brands of profitable companies
one if not the biggest automotive co. in the world
we let them German auto co.'s exist after we won WWII,
look at them now

VW Group, they were a player in buying out or a majority of Chrysler
not too long ago, when Fiat/FCA was shopping the market, they declined
 
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Looks like a mid nineties mustang.
I had a 94 Mustang. Sold it to my son. This thing weighs at least twice what that Mustang did, and certainly won't be as fun to drive with all the spyware and nanny cams on board.
 
the French Canadians burned down our US Capitol/White House in 1812 too
not exactly an ally
It was the British army, led by Major-General Robert Ross who burned the Presidential Mansion in 1812. Not the French.
& then helped US to attack the British in the Battle of New Orleans in 1814
"Along with Col. Jackson down the mighty Mississip"
as the Johnny Horton song goes
they didn't seem to know what side they wanted to be on
They did know, they were against the British. Which was why they were one of the very first countries to recognize the US as an independent country.

Unfortunately for France, helping the Americans nearly bankrupted their own country enough that they never fully recovered after that.
 
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Had to recheck the title of this thread. Yep, it is thoughts on a 2024 ‘Cuda. For a minute there, thought I was on another thread about ‘Trash the French Day’. Going back 300-years, there were plenty of nations that had been allies and then adversaries and then allies again. Our closest buddy today tried to kill us once too. No French blood here; but I did date a sweet-gorgeous gal from – France.
 
I don't hate the look but what's this calling the same car with very slight updates all these different classic names? If they were offering the above car in a 6.4 Hemi AWD version I'd take it for a test drive. All electric, I'll pass at least until the "next gen" versions come out with better battery technology allowing 500+ mile ranges along with the nationwide charging infrastructure to support them.
 
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