'68 Coronet Headliner Questions

[Toxic Orange 493]

I have read through some old posts and I believe it seems as though most say the '68 did not have the sail panel boards. I brought my car in 2010, so I can't say if the headliner was original or not. But my car had the sail panel boards and headliner ended at the teeth on the c-pillar. My questions are
1. If I were to make the headliner go all the way to the rear deck. Is there anything other than glue that holds the headliner past the teeth on the c-pillar?
2. If just glue, what type of glue is used here? Something like Super 77 spray adhesive? I have seen mention of using contact cement the edges of the headliner by dadsbee in his thread on DodgeCharger.com.
3. Or should I just go with installing some sail panels and save my self some aggravation/headache? I still have the metal square metal plates and clips that were on the sail panels when I got the car.
4. My headliner has been folder up in the box for about 8 years now. I am going to lay it out on the car for a while to try to get the folds out. Does it need to be perfectly flat/no folds before I try installing? Or would a steamer/hair dryer to warm it help at all if the folds are still there some?

For installing the insulation/jute above the headliner. Is Super77 spray adhesive the best choice? Just looking to see if there are any alternatives, before I buy some.

Thanks and I am just trying to prep so I do not get to frustrated whille putting it in.

 

[MADCIMA]

mine has never been taken apart

 

[65-440]

Curious to see what you do here, I've thought about putting the panels from a 69/70 on my 68

 

[WesleyK]

68's, or at least mine did, had a board behind the headliner to give it support and keep it from flapping and wrinkling up. I got mine from Detroit Muscle. It just helps smooth it out and hold shape better. I have read that some 68's had sail boards though like yours has. I used 3m 90 spray adhesive and it held great but 77 would probably be ok. Its a patients game installing it. Put on some good music and clear the schedule for the day. Also a good pair of scissors!

 

[R413]

#3 is your best bet.

A headliner gets pulled tight and then put over the teeth to secure it. How are you going to pull it tight and secure it with no teeth?

Don’t steam or heat it until it’s installed in the car. Mush of the folds will disappear when pulled tight.
Yes lay it out flat for a while first.

 

[furious70]

Do you need the windows out in order to do it? (Need to eventually do this in my 69 Coronet)

 

[Toxic Orange 493]

68's, or at least mine did, had a board behind the headliner to give it support and keep it from flapping and wrinkling up. I got mine from Detroit Muscle. It just helps smooth it out and hold shape better. I have read that some 68's had sail boards though like yours has. I used 3m 90 spray adhesive and it held great but 77 would probably be ok. Its a patients game installing it. Put on some good music and clear the schedule for the day. Also a good pair of scissors!

Thanks. I will look at Detroit Muscle for the boards then and will get some 3M spray adhesive then.

 

[Toxic Orange 493]

#3 is your best bet.

A headliner gets pulled tight and then put over the teeth to secure it. How are you going to pull it tight and secure it with no teeth?

Don’t steam or heat it until it’s installed in the car. Mush of the folds will disappear when pulled tight.
Yes lay it out flat for a while first.

I have it laying out of the roof of the car now. I think I read somewhere to lay a blanket on top of it to help get the folds out. So I might do that after it has been laying out for a few days first. Now that I have it laying on the roof of the car, the folds are not to bad. I just didn't know if they would disappear when pulled tight, which it sounds like most will. That is good to know. Its probably going to be a week or more until I can get to start installing it, so hopefully by that time, most will be gone anyway.

 

[Toxic Orange 493]

Do you need the windows out in order to do it? (Need to eventually do this in my 69 Coronet)

From the reading I did earlier, I think it is possible to do with the windows in the car. But definitely would be much more difficult to be able to stretch it tight at the windsheild and rear window.

 

[R413]

Easily done with all glass in the car.

Yes it will relax pretty good in a week. After you install it you can use a hair dryer Or steam to relax wrinkles, but not before.

 

[Toxic Orange 493]

It looks like almost all of the folds are out of my headliner now, so I am going to attempt putting it in soon. I never removed the clips along the top of the windshield that hold the front trim piece. From reading about them, it sounds like can break if not careful with them. In looking at them, I have not figured out how to remove them. Does anyone have tips on the best way to remove them and not damage them?

I stole this picture below from a thread where someone was looking for the clips

 

[Toxic Orange 493]

So I got around to starting on my headliner this morning. I have the front of the headliner pulled tight and tacked along the windshield. Then I have about the front half pulled tight and held in place with spring clamps on both sides. Since my headliner was sitting in a box for 8 years, it has quite a fold down the center that even when pulled tight is still very visible. You can see it in the picture below. I don't want to spend much more time on this headliner right now because i am not sure if the fold is going to come out.

Does anyone have any idea if this kind of winkle/fold would come out with heating it or steam?