A833 Question

[penglish56]

The 727 in my 71 Satellite crapped the bed, pretty sure the valve train is bad because it will go into drive, just not reverse. I've been wanting to convert it to a standard for some time and I'm using this opportunity as the excuse to do it. I found an A833 with a granny gear online for sale near me but it came off of a 318 from a 3rd gen Dodge D series truck. Will this bolt up properly to my motor if I got a new driveshaft to match?

My car is a 1971 Plymouth Satellite with a 440 and an A727 from a 1968 Chrysler Imperial.

 

[biomedtechguy]

I want to encourage your choice.
I have and love my 3 pedal Roadrunner and my wife's GTO has 3 pedals too!
As far as the answers for what you need, I'd suggest calling Wayne at Brewer's Performance
http://www.brewersperformance.com/

 

[R413]

There is no “granny” gear truck 833 4 speed.

there is a 3.09 first gear 833 from slant 6 cars from early 60’s. I believe they all have a ball&trunion instead of a slip yoke.

If you get an OD 4 speed they have a huge front bearing retainer. I’m not sure where you get a BB bellhousing for that trans.

Lots more to a manual swap then the trans. Pedals, bellhousing, clutch & pressure plate, throw out bearing, clutch linkage, shifter and linkage, floor hump. you,need a 70 and newer tailhousing. If you,have a 69 and older you need a different crossmember.

if you get the correct trans then you can use the same driveshaft.

Your 727 probably broke the band or servo for low reverse band.

 

[dvw]

Swapping to 4 speed is way more work and WAY MORE COST than repairing the automatic. There are various front bearing retainer diameters, bell housings, shifter mounts on the tail shaft housings, clutch diameter/spline, Z bar differences. Not to mention welding the new floor hump and Z bar pivot. Then the pedal set up for your car (rare) has to be swapped. Your 727 issue sounds like either a broken/cocked low/reverse piston or broken rear band. The piston can be done in the car.
Doug

 

[Nate S]

I’ve done 3 4-speed conversions and the trick is a good donor car. These days those are very hard to come by. You’d probably be best off getting the whole kit from Brewers. The tranny is actually the easiest part and if the one you mention had a granny gear it’s probably an Np-435 and not an 833.

With pretty minor work you can get a 727 to behave itself quite nicely and save yourself a project.

 

[66Satellite47]

I'd bet a paycheck the 727 lost the rear band or servo, or the rear servo strut fell out. Rebuilding the 727 is a lot easier & far less expensive than a manual conversion. I helped a buddy do a swap that included the 727/833 swap. A TON of work, even with two 3 year old cars & ALL the OEM parts.

 

[mikedonz]

I want to encourage your choice.
I have and love my 3 pedal Roadrunner and my wife's GTO has 3 pedals too!
As far as the answers for what you need, I'd suggest calling Wayne at Brewer's Performance
http://www.brewersperformance.com/

Totally agree, I had a 454 numbers matching Corvette years ago, it was an automatic. I vowed to never own another "muscle car" without a clutch. Even my modern vehicles with paddle shifters are not the same. I love running through the gears!