And a Ramcharger.Hagerty's Bull Market List for 2026 has a second gen Charger

[SteveSS]

https://www.hagerty.com/media/market-trends/bull-market-2026/

 

[SteveSS]

And a RamCharger.

 

[chargervert]

Who would have thought second gen Chargers are poised for more growth! I had Three Ramchargers,great trucks,but underpowered!

 

[YY1]

Didn't someone just post an article claiming we were in a "soft" market?

 

[SteveSS]

They lost money since 2022.

Values for Chargers have dipped in recent years but remain higher than before the pandemic. We expect the younger buyers to push prices up in the coming years.

Reading before complaining is a good thing.

 

[YY1]

Not sure I'd call that a soft market.
Values trend up 15K in 4 years.

More like spiky market 2 of 3 years.

 

[DeltaV]

 

[Detective D]

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Youngsters trade Miatas like old guys used to trade lunch items in school. They change hands faster then you can blink. Lots of sales volume doesn't really mean the sales are going up.
I suspect the Ramcharger is on there because a lot of classic car dealerships got suckered into offering way too much for trade ins and thought they could get $35-40k out of them. Need to build some hype! Fine by me I own one already, I have $7k into it including the brand new chrome mags and tires. Everyone should tell their friends they are worth at least $25k.
I think the 454SS crowd consists of like 30 Gen X guys that want to relive their youth when their Dad had one. That is going to be a niche market, and not one that can hold value once the tiny market buys their dream truck. Trucks in general are being rebuilt and having the engines beefed. Shortbeds from the 60's and 70's are still going to be king though. I don't think the 454 will ever catch the lil red in terms of value long term.

 

[chargervert]

They lost money since 2022.

View attachment 1960138Values for Chargers have dipped in recent years but remain higher than before the pandemic. We expect the younger buyers to push prices up in the coming years.

Reading before complaining is a good thing.

Try buying one and see if that data is correct! Good luck!

 

[DeltaV]

And a RamCharger.

Here you go...

 

[SteveSS]

I think all they are saying the Chargers are poised to climb again. With dipping values for #3 condition (good) Chargers in recent years, it’s a solid buy right now for those seeking a slice of all-American muscle. From what I've heard, classic Mustangs were hit the hardest in this downturn. Hagerty thinks Mopars are doing well compared to a lot of other makes.

I thought this was the most interesting sentence.

Of course, Charger enthusiasm isn’t constrained to any one age group (52% of owners in our database are Gen X or younger).

I watched all of Mecum's auction last weekend in Kansas City. Mopars were not doing great. The auction was 45% Chevy trucks, 45% muscle cars, and 10% other. I saw a truck bid to $125K and it didn't hit the reserve. The nicest trucks were going higher than '70 Road Runners, Challengers, and Barracudas.

I honestly felt bad for some 40's and 50's owners that looked like they spent $100K and were getting $17K.

 

[Detective D]

I think all they are saying the Chargers are poised to climb again. With dipping values for #3 condition (good) Chargers in recent years, it’s a solid buy right now for those seeking a slice of all-American muscle. From what I've heard, classic Mustangs were hit the hardest in this downturn. Hagerty thinks Mopars are doing well compared to a lot of other makes.

I thought this was the most interesting sentence.

Of course, Charger enthusiasm isn’t constrained to any one age group (52% of owners in our database are Gen X or younger).

I watched all of Mecum's auction last weekend in Kansas City. Mopars were not doing great. The auction was 45% Chevy trucks, 45% muscle cars, and 10% other. I saw a truck bid to $125K and it didn't hit the reserve. The nicest trucks were going higher than '70 Road Runners, Challengers, and Barracudas.

I honestly felt bad for some 40's and 50's owners that looked like they spent $100K and were getting $17K.

The value of 40's and some 50's is not in pristine cars but in patina rat rods to the younger crowd. And they want in at under 10k.
Mustangs got crippled, it was boomers that had 69 mach 1's in high school that kept the price higher. Gen X and younger the market is much smaller, especially younger, they prefer the new stuff.
Trucks will crash once enough speculators flood the market with them. There are thousands of old trucks in the south to restore yet. If they start bringing over 30k regular then people will turn that into a business until the market is full. Truck market does not suffer from the mid 70's and newer phobia. Anything from the 50's to the early 90's square body trucks are fair game.

 

[6PKRTSE]

I have owned 2 Ramchargers and 1 Plymouth Trail Duster over the years. All were 77-79 models and all were beat on, abused and four wheeled to death in my younger years, but all took the abuse. My first one at 16 years old was a loaded S.E. with a 440, power everything, sun roof and AM/FM/CB radio which I found out now was an extremely rare and desirable truck now. As for value, these Broncos, Blazers and Scouts are sure climbing in value.
As for my 2nd Gen Chargers. I don't care what the value of these old cars are or becomes. I just enjoy driving them too much to just let them sit.

 

[SteveSS]

Since we started the list nearly a decade ago, our goal has been to bring more folks into the tent. We purposely include a wide variety of cars from different eras and at different price points. Any car is a significant cash outlay, but our overarching point is that you could potentially buy one of the vehicles on our list, enjoy it for a few years, and then pass it on for about what you have in it. That’s free fun, or close to it, and what other hobbies offer that? It’s all about serving the Hagerty community with useful, valuable information.

 

[Detective D]

Since we started the list nearly a decade ago, our goal has been to bring more folks into the tent. We purposely include a wide variety of cars from different eras and at different price points. Any car is a significant cash outlay, but our overarching point is that you could potentially buy one of the vehicles on our list, enjoy it for a few years, and then pass it on for about what you have in it. That’s free fun, or close to it, and what other hobbies offer that? It’s all about serving the Hagerty community with useful, valuable information.

Free fun.

LOL. That is expert level spin hahahaha. Someone has had "the talk" with the spouse a few too many times!